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      Well, in this topic i'm going to explain my general guidelines for LDing that has worked so well for me =P.

      Alright, the purpose of these guidelines are:
      a) to have a fun and epic LD experience
      b) to prolong the length of the time you stay lucid
      c) to learn more about how you would really act in extreme situations

      So, to get along to the guidelines...

      The central hub of how I go around LDing is that though I have the power to do the impossible, I refrain from abusing my powers. Its best summed up like this: "Why move mountains when you can walk around them and experience the wonders that lie there?". You'd be surprised how accurate that anology is. For example, if faced with an enemy that you could kill with a cheap shot, whether its by using your mind to destroy it or by simply crushing it with awesome might you should refrain from doing any such thing. It you kill them then they're dead. Remember the point of a quest is not the end result but the quest itself. Give yourself enough abilities to be at par with the enemy then go at it. You dont even have to win. I often dont. Have the enemy leave you there broken and defeated. You can then train yourself, become more powerful and when you do eventually face off again and win you will feel true satasfaction.

      And if you feel like having huge amounts of magical powers, the ability to fly and hurculean strength.. Make an enemy that has those same powers and maybee even more. That way you can have this huge ariel battle that includes throwing each other through buildings and whatnot =D.

      Another thing that it forces you to do is find solutions to problems. Its fun to work around the problems you encounter in a dream even if you could blast it away in seconds.

      Also, if you dont do anything surreal to it, your mind wont do anything surreal back. This makes your dreams much more believable and makes them feel so much more real =). this also cuts down on the randomness you sometimes have to deal with in a dream which makes it alot easier to contend with and if you wish later, analyse.

      About the prolonging of the time that you stay lucid.. Its all just a small theory of mine so it may not hold too much merit but... my LDs tend to last an entire night each so I think theres some connection even if its not what I think it is. Anyways I think that the less you abuse your powers and do things that blatently could not happen in reality the less likely you are to wake up. If you do start to do things your mind registers as false it'll start to get confused and you'll run into problems.

      And finally, to learn more about yourself...

      If you are blowing up buildings at will can that really tell you much about yourself? Now, if you are off solving problems in your dream, then you can look back later and say "wow, i handled that situation well" or "dammit, I react bad to that" or even my favorite "so THATS what I should do in that sort of situation!". Its actually helped me tons =D.

      So, theres what I do in LDs. Comments and questions are welcomed and appreciated. I adore feedback =D (and i'm an attention whore =P live with it)

      Also I need a catch phrase to name my technique. Any suggestions?

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      cascadeing waterfall?

      because you slowly build up and enjoy the experiance, rather then the fall and who cant say that a waterfall is breathtaking, like a dream?

      also, water gives freedom, like a lucid dream
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      cascadeing waterfall?

      because you slowly build up and enjoy the experiance, rather then the fall and who cant say that a waterfall is breathtaking, like a dream?

      also, water gives freedom, like a lucid dream
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      Hehe, that sounds good for like a scientificish name but i'm looking for a name that you can read a get a hint at what it is.

      like Lucid Realism (but accurate and not sounding as cheezy)

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      I suppose a decent analogy will be cheating in a video game. Why type IDDQD when you could have fun running way from cacodemons and the like?

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      I dunno, it kinda goes along with the mentality of yin and yang, and keeping balance in the dream world. You could try and go with that ( for your name). I will definitely follow these guidelines when I attain lucidity.
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      Illustrated ongoing manifestation or Evolving passive reflection - but I don't know maybe I'm not on the right track, just thought I would post something because your a attention whore. ℓ=D

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      (arby)

      Just wanted to say that you got that spot on.

      I too have noticed that when I start pulling out the god powers (making things not exist without moving a muscle) the dream often ends extremely quickly (or gets very un-vivid).



      As you said, you should work with your dream, not against it.

      a possible name: "Lucid Guidelines to follow" (subtext "make your LDs more meaningful"
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      oh, hey. bumps =P

      I actually have discovered this technique that sort of forces you into this type of dream. I've been using it alot lately and tis awesome. Now, i've just gota write it up and stuff so that I can share it. I gotta write it up better then this piece of junk too XD. I'm re-reading it and its mighty hard to understand XD.

      Bleh, the only really hard thing about writing a technique up is realizing what you're really doing to make it happen. I've slowly moved from LDs to what I call "seeded semi-lucids". Now I have to figure out how to help people be able to do it almost instantly =P. May take a while before I get it done XD.

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      I absolutely agree with your line of thinking, mostly because making yourself omnipotent destroys everything INTERESTING in a dream. One of the things I hate the most in LDs is that sometimes they follow your thoughts WAY too closely, ie I start controlling things without wanting to (example: I ask someone what his name is, he doesn't answer and stales until a random name pops up in my mind, at which moment the person instantly says that his name, and it's exactly the name I just came up with&#33. That's why I like to place a limit on my powers. It's not exactly limiting my powers actually, it's more like holding back my full powers both to test DCs and to toy with them. Sometimes I even let them have small victories.

      Anyway, in most cases my dream control is fairly limited as it is so little limitations are neccessary (although some things still require regulation).

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      arby:
      Anyways I think that the less you abuse your powers and do things that blatently could not happen in reality the less likely you are to wake up. If you do start to do things your mind registers as false it'll start to get confused and you'll run into problems. [/b]
      billybob:
      Just wanted to say that you got that spot on.

      I too have noticed that when I start pulling out the god powers (making things not exist without moving a muscle) the dream often ends extremely quickly (or gets very un-vivid).



      As you said, you should work with your dream, not against it.[/b]
      i think y'all are onto something...looking back, my own history of lucid dreams supports it...almost invariably, the more i break the laws of physics or try to intrude in a lucid dream, the more shaky it is, and the quicker it ends (often almost the same instant i play god).

      whereas my longest, most vivid (and memorable) lucids were always ones in which i went with the flow, and didn't attempt anything too otherworldly.


      “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” (or better yet: three...)
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