Thread: Do you think pot...

A lot of people here, will have a different opinion about this. But back when I was smoking, I could almost never remember my dreams because of it.

Geez Mary Jane may make you tired as hell and fall asleep easy and you will probably have a lot of dreams, but I also noticed that my recall was a bit off, but the dreams were pretty much always lucid.

I remember dreams on pot
but they were always creepy and demented
I'd always see people, but it was like seeing them through a funhouse mirror

no more of that shite for meeee

I have been smoking pretty much everyday for about a year now and I did notice that it had a negative effect on my dream recall. However, I practice my recall and now I have such a high tolerence for marijuana that it really doesn't effect me anymore. The only time I don't remember my dreams is when I don't try to.

Well hopefully I can get over the poor recall, because I love Mary Jane. She's my gal. But if it came to giving up dreaming or Mj, Mj'd be out the door

Its common knowledge that weed makes it harder to remember dreams. The second day after I quit I start remembering all sorts of mad dreams.

Well, you need your brain to remember dreams, and pot kills lots of brain cells. So in the long run it is obviously not good for your memory or your brain. lol

True, i have only just recently stoped smoking everyday and my dream recall has gotton alot better, but when i was on it day to day, it seemed i would forget my dreams quicker.

Don't blame good old Mary Jane but she could have had something to do with it, lol. Yeah I used to smoke a lot for about five years and like the majority of people out there, when you stop smoking for a while your dream recall will improve. I still had dreams after nights of smoking pot but my recall frequency dropped and my motivation for lucid dreaming dropped also, but thats just me. I still smoke on occasion, but try not to often because it screws with the two things I love most in life doing practicing, kung fu and lucid dreaming.

Yeah, Ive smoked for the past 2 days and I havnt had any dreams. Ill probably only do it occasionally now, at parties and whatnot. Which makes me sad

I LOVE MJ, however I have just recently learned about LD's. Can you see the problem? It is all very interesting and I am exploring. However, I feel the same way, i'm pretty sure it affects dream recall. What's a person to do?:p

I guess it's about whatever's more important to you, and I think that Lucid Dreaming would be an overall better experience than getting high, as pleasurable as it is. And after I learn to LD, Ill just do it in my dreams...

im committed to LD's. its all i think about and read about. so if it must go, it will. i'm still goin over a the fundamentals of this process

wow
well bro i just smoked yesterday, about 2 hours ago and on sunday before sleeping and i remember that i had a hella vivid dream and it was something about friends and stuff so my recall is real good even under the influence however i realized that it makes me less aware...like forgetting to do RCs and stuff. yeah i dont really smoke much though, i mean only like at parties or when its free or when me and my friends just have not chilled in like weeks ya know?
but to u curious kids DONT DO DRUGS!!!! and if ya do: DONT DO THE WHITE DRUGS!!!!!! stay organic

I haven't even had one lucid dream that I'm aware of yet, but it has no effect on my ability to remember my dreams when I wake up. I always remember at least 1 a night.

Originally Posted by SpanishFlea

Makes it harder to remember your dreams? I smoked last night for the first time in 2 months and I remember having a bunch of dreams, but as soon as I tried to recall them, they slipped away. I think it could have been Mary Jane's fault.

Absolutely! There is no question about it. I am an on again/off again pot binger, and I have seen very clearly what that crap does. If I am in a pot smoking phase, I will still remember my dreams, but not that often. The memories are fuzzier when I do. When I am not in a weed phase, I remember my dreams very vividly every day. Most importantly, it is nearly impossible for me to have lucid dreams during a pot smoking phase. On the rare occasions I actually pull off lucidity during such a phase, it is usually very fuzzy and I can't hold onto it for more than a few seconds. I have not been in a pot phase and held onto lucidity for more than five seconds yet. When I have gone several weeks without pot, I start getting back my lucid ability. I have no trouble at all having good, long lucids when I have been off pot for a long time, but I am lucky to even cross the line at all when I have smoked it recently. Lots and lots of other people will tell you the same thing.

On top of that, being a successful lucid dreamer takes a lot of discipline. You have to learn a lot and practice a lot of things. Pot, at least when done on a regular basis, kills my motivation to do all of that. I don't write in my dream journal, do reality checks, or practice conceptualizing the dream realm and recognizing it. I just bum around and smoke cheap garbage that amounts to a downsized imitation of lucid dreaming on a toothpick while I watch Three's Company on TV Land. It is such a lazy and low quality route to go. I just got so damn addicted to it that something in me really wants to keep it coming. Marijuana is much more addictive than it is good.

Aaha Solution=Lucid dream about having a session.

Lol i remeber having a dream about that didnt go for long and i dont think a got a real hit, but it did feel really strange, i just woke up and laughed.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Marijuana is much more addictive than it is good.

Marijuana isnt addictive at all, just habbit forming. When it comes down to it, I really have no trouble stopping when I have to or want to.

NONETHELESS, Ill probably quit so I can LD at a quicker pace.

Also, I got stoned and wasted last night, but I had a dream after I came back home this morning and went to sleep again. wooooo

Originally Posted by SpanishFlea

Marijuana isnt addictive at all, just habbit forming. When it comes down to it, I really have no trouble stopping when I have to or want to.

NONETHELESS, Ill probably quit so I can LD at a quicker pace.

Also, I got stoned and wasted last night, but I had a dream after I came back home this morning and went to sleep again. wooooo

Well, I have a great deal of trouble quitting. When I say that it is addictive, I don't mean everybody who does it gets addicted. It just means that some people get addicted to it. No matter what label you put on it, I have struggled for years to quit smoking it in spite of the negative that comes with it (laziness, foggy headedness, allergic reaction, sickly feeling, anxiety, depression, avoidance of situations where I can't be stoned, inhibition of lucid dreaming and meditation, etc.). It is not physically addictive, but neither is gambling. People still give up everything they own for gambling in many cases. Calling it "habit forming" does not take away that very serious fact. Gambling can cause an ongoing and overwhelming compulsion to do it, as can marijuana. I am 35, and I have known tons of people who got majorly hooked on marijuana. A lot of them are total bums now because of it. Marijuana has negative effects and can consume people's lives. Pick a term for that, but that's how it works. Be careful.

Prolonged cannabis use (& I'm talking more than just the odd spliff) slowly increases the levels of the chemical Dopamine in parts of the Brain.

When levels reach a critical point this can start to have drastic effects on your thoughts, unfounded fears from the subconscious & in extreme cases a complete loss of the identification you have with yourself i.e 'What you define as you' accompanied by hallucinations, maybe audio and delusional beliefs (PSYCHOSIS).

However this can be an enlightening experience filled with bliss depending on how well grounded you are psychologically once you realise what's happening & take control because I never used weed to open my mind. Anyone that's done Trips knows what I'm talking about & it's the (I am)-c-o-n-n-e-c-t-e-d-(All that Is) that you need to keep & just observe the cascade of everything. Like a mighty rock you're anchored to that cant be moved because reality can soon flip in on itself, you may start to question what's real = insanity/madness & feelings of Paranoia & terror you never knew you were capable of feeling.

I know it sounds OTT but believe me Marijuana can take you there.
I used to cultivate Large 20%THC Purple Blueberry Plants outside in the UK. I had to harvest it all early year 2004 because of our moldy climate & as you might know the earlier you cut it the more rich the psychoactive compound THC is (No degraded CBD as happens over time)
OK I had just over a kilo salvaged, cured it for a while then smoked it all within the space of 2 months. Lets just say there came a point soon after I started seeing things in a new light & I cant smoke it in the same way I used to & yeah I've confronted my darkest fears but on the other side there is a Rainbow.

Every time I light up a J I'm ready for a ride simply because that's where it's taken me before therefor that's what my brain now associates it with. I miss the days chilling out with friends, just having a relaxing toke & not thinking anything of it. Just not the same anymore.

MJ was my drug of choice & I loved it, my advice would be same with anything really, just use it in moderation & dont abuse it. If it ever makes you feel strange just lay off it for a bit then smoke again in good company.

I have smoked enough of it to know that what you are describing really amounts to going through life as a lazy dope while on a dope binge. It wasn't a rainbow for me. I feel so much better, am so much more relaxed and happy, and have such a clearer head when I have gotten far past a dope binge. And the advice about doing it in moderation is futile advice for some people.

Dope. No It enhances recall while also increasing your ambitions and sex drive.
It is also good for your lungs.

wow HOWIE. i dig that pic.....and oh man, i gotta say, i was high for like 4 days..and my dream recall did not change much. there were some differences though like there were details that i could not remember and people can be real questionable too. the weed rampage i was in made me have REEEEEEEAAAALL vivid thoughts and dreams and allowed my meditation to be more entertaining and more uuumm cool. i think that people that are unafraid of experimenting in the mane of LUCIDITY should experiment with weed and dreams...oh and if you have not ever smoked weed in your life and wanna start dont make it a habit and use it responsably, oh and dont have great expectations the first time.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I have smoked enough of it to know that what you are describing really amounts to going through life as a lazy dope while on a dope binge. It wasn't a rainbow for me.

That's a touch judgemental UM.

I was only describing the effect it can have after heavy consumption.
I lead a busy life that certainly doesn't revolve around marijuana & resent being called lazy, I've always worked & besides I was up early most mornings of that summer tending to the crop! LOL

All joking aside though, I only smoked so much of it in such a short space of time to get rid of it really. I have a nice garden in the country & after an enjoyable weekend in Amsterdam I just had to grow the Blueberry.
Earlier in the season it was looking like a fantastic crop, the plants grew very large, far exceeding my expectations & I knew I was going to end up with allot more bud than I'd imagined. But then during flowering the mould had a devastating effect & destroyed a large %. I was really disapointed & even what I had left hadn't been able to mature properly.

Yeah I abused it at that point, I put my hands up to that but I rarely smoke at all anymore. I've never found cannabis to be addictive but then again I've always felt happy in myself so I'm never likely to become dependant on any substance.

The same with most things in life, it's about finding a balance & deciding what's right for you. I'm not here to condone drugs. I just speak of my experience & advocate everyone make their own decisions.
I'm sorry if you've had bad experiences but trust I know how it feels.

Take care.