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    1. 07-22-2007 07:58 AM #1
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      Penn and Teller are hypocrites too...
      they say people bank off of OBE accounts, but they're the ones "out to make a buck", making a big pretentious statement that OBEs are "BULLSHIT". Because they know it means something to people, and it doesn't to them (because they half think it) and they profit off the big stink of "debunking spirituality".

      These guys make athiests look really bad.
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    2. 07-22-2007 08:02 AM #2
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      Quote Originally Posted by jamous View Post
      Penn and Teller are hypocrites too...
      they say people bank off of OBE accounts, but they're the ones "out to make a buck", making a big pretentious statement that OBEs are "BULLSHIT". Because they know it means something to people, and it doesn't to them (because they half think it) and they profit off the big stink of "debunking spirituality".

      These guys make athiests look really bad.
      They have to pay the bills too
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    3. 07-24-2007 10:13 PM #3
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      Quote Originally Posted by lvlindless View Post
      They have to pay the bills too
      Penn and Teller? They don't need any more money. Not that they don't have a right or anything.

      They are just major hypocrites.
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    4. 07-22-2007 07:12 PM #4
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      Quote Originally Posted by jamous View Post
      Penn and Teller are hypocrites too...
      they say people bank off of OBE accounts, but they're the ones "out to make a buck", making a big pretentious statement that OBEs are "BULLSHIT". Because they know it means something to people, and it doesn't to them (because they half think it) and they profit off the big stink of "debunking spirituality".

      These guys make athiests look really bad.
      Indeed.

      I don't have a formed opinion in this matter but when I want scientific research I'll ask real scientists, instead of getting my answers from some pseudo-intellectual illusionists.
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    5. 07-22-2007 07:15 PM #5
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      That's doesn't really prove OBEs and NDE wrong, but it proves those certain situations wrong, in the film.

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