Thread: ParadigmShift WILD method

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been more active.. it totally hits bodily sensation aspect of WILD that has been getting a lot of attention in other threads.

I personally trying to use spinning... because for me I think I can get into a better "groove" picturing this movement... But I've been doing it right when I wake only not very succesfully.. it seems when I wait to find the window.. I miss it and fall right to sleep.

How have people been doing find the "window?"

And Paradigm.. have you still been getting those insomnia-like symptoms?

I think this is a great technique, I havn't attempted an actual wild like this yet (I hope to tonight), it seems like an extended version of a deild variation I used to use, with tactile, the only problem is when I wake up and not move either I have a successful deild, or I quickly get caught up in my own thoughts and they bring me to sleep super fast (after trying to do tactile for a moment or two), plus I tend to wake up in positions where my body makes alot of pressure points with my bed, so it's hard to ignore.

But the waiting time might make me conscious enough to attempt to try tactile longer then a few moments, though the pressure points are an anoyance to wild in for some reason, I don't know maybe I should practice relaxation techniques in that position.

Plus sliding might be better, my old technique involved rolling which is hard to think about doing at 4 am in the morning , being dragged though is something any lazy man can do

I'll try this tonight and post back to you in the morning ParadigmShift. I think Its awsome that you came up with a new spin on WILD. I really feel the more ways the more chances some one will find a way that works for them.

SO do u actually drag/roll or imagine it and I do I have to a WBTB method.

I woke up without the alarm clock and tried in my normal sleeping position, though again I have a habbit of waking up and getting to cold thus I feel uncomfterbal because I wear shorts to bed and a t-shirt (even around this time of year) and cold usualy decreeses my level of conscious too, I did feel alittle bit of fuzziness in my body, and eventually I fell into a deeper state of conscious but then I rolled over accidently and decided to give it up, because I wasn't very comfterbal, tomorrow I'll wear pants to bed .

To ParadigmShift - Like the concept, have hade trouble in the past (always "jump" and wake up. Have had some success doing something similar by mentally moving limbs. Hope to try your method the next time I sleep.

To SKA - Love the dream gate Idea. Have a similar one -I always wanted to build a frame of a door, complete with doorknob (so that it looks like its real) in my room for both as a RC as well as a "dream gate”.

Originally Posted by TalkingHead

And Paradigm.. have you still been getting those insomnia-like symptoms?

I've stopped WILD nightly and my insomnia-like symptoms went away. I know correlation =! causation but you know...maybe it's not a good idea for me to be doing it so frequently.

Now I get an occasional DILD which I rarely ever used to get before. I'm generally much less focused on LDs nowadays though.

Thought I should revive this thread... since I'll be trying it pretty soon. I'm sure some other people should take a look and maybe it can help em.

Thanks for bumping this, I totally meant to try it like 3 years ago or whenever it was posted but I forgot. I'll go for it tonight.
EDIT: My alarm didn't go off so I'm going to have to try this again.

I never got to sleep on time, and don't recall waking naturally, which is what I prefer. Oh well, always tonight.

I replied a few months ago to stiky. He asked me about my experience with lucid dreams, and I told him thal all my lucid dreams began in sleep paralisis. But I have never been able to induce sleep paralisis. In every case, a feel that I am being dragged from my bed, and in every case I realize that I am dreaming. In all those cases my dreams were weird. Flying at great speed over the sea, rivers, mountains. In some cases crossing along many doors in which people are dead and covered with blankets, etc. I did not feel any fear because I am materialistic and I do not believed in anything thas is supernatural. I have tried many times to feel that "drag thing" but I have failed. It is something I can not induce.

This I accidentally ended up going through this technique after hitting the snooze button on my alarm. I was conscious as I realized I was moving in my bed and realized that it would be a good time to try to enter a lucid dream. I tried opening my eyes and immediately when I did this I could see my room like I would normally expect so I wrote it off as opening my eyes in real life.

I keep my eyes open and see my girlfriend sleeping on the floor, offer her a blanket, and think nothing of it. I wake up 10 minutes later to my snoozed alarm and realize that I was in a dream, but I was not lucid or lost lucidity immediately upon opening my eyes.

Has anyone had a similar experience where they used some form of a WILD and entered a dream but you were not lucid?

Was gonna give this a shot this morning, and used my laptop as an alarm clock, but it rebooted because of updates, and didn't get to give it a shot. I'll try again tonight

When I imagine myself floating upwards, I rapidly get the sliding sensations. But It lasts 1 or 2 minutes and gradually fades away. Then I open my eyes only to find my self in the physical. If only I could find how to get past that.

Reading what ParadigmShift wrote, I don't think you need to have that sliding sensation for 2 minutes. Maybe 30 seconds is enough, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less. This is basically FILD, but with tactile sensations instead of moving fingers.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Reading what ParadigmShift wrote, I don't think you need to have that sliding sensation for 2 minutes. Maybe 30 seconds is enough, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less. This is basically FILD, but with tactile sensations instead of moving fingers.

Yes, but still I need to solve how I'll get to the last phase after the slide.

Just don't drag it out for so long. Simply open your eyes when you got that sensation.

This time my alarm worked but I had to pee, and then my alarm kept going off for some reason. So I'll have to try again

Originally Posted by Marvo

Just don't drag it out for so long. Simply open your eyes when you got that sensation.

And it will happen you say... Man, if this turns out to be that easy, I'll bang my head against the wall for all my failed attempts and laugh really hard at the same time.

Don't take my word for it, I'm just telling you to do what ParadigmShift described in the original post. I'm giving it another go tonight, perhaps my laptop won't reboot

I remember waking up, but being too tired to try. Gonna give it another go tonight.

I just did the same Elucive, kinda. I got up, turned off my alarm and just didn't think of doing it really. It was perfectly fitting though, like, I only remember like 10 seconds, then I fell asleep again. Just gotta give it some more tries and I might just get it

Originally Posted by Marvo

I only remember like 10 seconds, then I fell asleep again.

I think that's the BEST time to try! When I'm that sleepy I try so hard not to wake up myself up too much, but then I fall asleep. I need a better anchor to help me catch myself.

We gotta find the perfect point I guess. The most important thing is to actually do it though. When I woke up, I think I thought to myself "Yay I'm awake", then I turned off my alarm, and then I don't even remember falling asleep again.