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      Hey!

      This technique looks pretty promising... for those of us here who havent figured out how to wake yourself up after 5 or 6 hours of sleep without moving a muscle, here is what I do.

      I set my cell phone to "silent" mode where it only vibrates and then use the countdown timer set to 5 hours. At 5 hours, the cell phone vibrates 16 times right beside my bed and then stops. That way, I can wake up and not move at all before attempting this technique.

      I put my cellphone on a folded t-shirt so that it doesnt vibrate against a hard surface .... thats just noisy and disturbs me when I wake up.

      The cellphone I use is a Nokia, I havent tried this with other cell phones... but there should be similar features on other phones too.
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      ok Paradigm; great tutorial...but im a little confused by your graph

      you mentioned "shifts". what is that? Is that imaging shifting/dragging around your bed?
      or do you imagine that the whole time? if so...can you clarify shift?

      what are these mental lapses? periods where your mind is no longer empty or periods where you forget to imagine the sensations?

      what happens between "shift works...now concentrate" and "LD"?


      sorry, i just wouldnt want to try it without knowing 100% what to do!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
      Hey!

      I set my cell phone to "silent" mode where it only vibrates and then use the countdown timer set to 5 hours. At 5 hours, the cell phone vibrates 16 times right beside my bed and then stops.
      Wow, this is a great idea. I think I'm going to start doing this

      Quote Originally Posted by james_jlc View Post

      you mentioned "shifts". what is that? Is that imaging shifting/dragging around your bed?
      or do you imagine that the whole time? if so...can you clarify shift?

      what are these mental lapses? periods where your mind is no longer empty or periods where you forget to imagine the sensations?

      what happens between "shift works...now concentrate" and "LD"?

      sorry, i just wouldnt want to try it without knowing 100% what to do!
      Yes, a shift is your body dragging around. I just didn't want to use a wordly description every time so I just called it "shift".*(see note at near bottom)

      Lapses are times where you lose consciousness for a small moment, but then return to awareness. Happens with some people, doesn't with others. If you have them, this technique should be very easy, because that's where the technique should start being used. If you don't, you need to induce SP somehow (check out the "how to make your body fall asleep" thread for tips)

      When the shift works, you're in already in SP, you can't perceive anything except the illusory shift sensation. I'd call that an extremely low LD. So for me it's:

      wake up ->go back to sleep->mental lapse/reach SP->shift->LD

      so to answer your question of what happens in between...you shift for a few seconds, then after a while you can open your eyes and you're in an LD.

      Final note on shifts: I can't stress this enough. A shift is not a visualization of your body moving. You have to be sure that you're in SP, then actually attempt to physically move your body.

      Anyway, it sounds much more complicated than it is. When you get it the first few times, you'll know what signs to look for. It becomes 2nd nature.

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      Darn, I forgot about this. I need to try again. I like that you've clarified a few things.

      Quote Originally Posted by ParadigmShift View Post
      Final note on shifts: I can't stress this enough. A shift is not a visualization of your body moving. You have to be sure that you're in SP, then actually attempt to physically move your body.
      I'm especially glad you clarified that. I think I misunderstood exactly what you meant by that term. I was also under the impression that, by "shift", you meant the mental/tactile sensation of sliding or being dragged across the bed.

      Thanks.

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      I'm surprised this thread hasn't been more active.. it totally hits bodily sensation aspect of WILD that has been getting a lot of attention in other threads.

      I personally trying to use spinning... because for me I think I can get into a better "groove" picturing this movement... But I've been doing it right when I wake only not very succesfully.. it seems when I wait to find the window.. I miss it and fall right to sleep.

      How have people been doing find the "window?"

      And Paradigm.. have you still been getting those insomnia-like symptoms?

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      I think this is a great technique, I havn't attempted an actual wild like this yet (I hope to tonight), it seems like an extended version of a deild variation I used to use, with tactile, the only problem is when I wake up and not move either I have a successful deild, or I quickly get caught up in my own thoughts and they bring me to sleep super fast (after trying to do tactile for a moment or two), plus I tend to wake up in positions where my body makes alot of pressure points with my bed, so it's hard to ignore.

      But the waiting time might make me conscious enough to attempt to try tactile longer then a few moments, though the pressure points are an anoyance to wild in for some reason, I don't know maybe I should practice relaxation techniques in that position.

      Plus sliding might be better, my old technique involved rolling which is hard to think about doing at 4 am in the morning , being dragged though is something any lazy man can do
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      Quote Originally Posted by TalkingHead View Post

      And Paradigm.. have you still been getting those insomnia-like symptoms?
      I've stopped WILD nightly and my insomnia-like symptoms went away. I know correlation =! causation but you know...maybe it's not a good idea for me to be doing it so frequently.

      Now I get an occasional DILD which I rarely ever used to get before. I'm generally much less focused on LDs nowadays though.

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      Thought I should revive this thread... since I'll be trying it pretty soon. I'm sure some other people should take a look and maybe it can help em.
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      Thanks for bumping this, I totally meant to try it like 3 years ago or whenever it was posted but I forgot. I'll go for it tonight.
      EDIT: My alarm didn't go off so I'm going to have to try this again.
      Last edited by tjg92; 09-09-2009 at 03:03 PM.

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