Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
Sorry to the site moderators/admin if this has been asked before.

I fully believe in lucid dreaming but I believe it is no more than a state of mind, and an opportunity to explore your subconscious. I have never "astral projected" and there doesn't seem to be much scientific proof that it is possible, other than the descriptions people have given on the internet.

So I was just wondering what your views are.

Sorry to offend the people who believe in it, but I feel that astral projection is what gives lucid dreaming such a bad hippy new-age image. 8)

Your views would be greatly appreciated.

I'm honestly not encouraging and/or discouraging astral projection, am just an architect who had been astral projecting for many years now.
That's why I can tell you it's real.
Once you try it, you realize that it's not lucid dreaming, it's FAR FAR more real, as real as feeling a touch and smelling a scent.
The beauty of it is that it releases you physically, even when you go back to your body/wake up you feel so refreshed.
Lucid dreaming and dreaming in general involves what you may call "mental" colors and visualized conceptual geometry of things, as in things are kind of blurry and your emotions/mind are strangely unbalanced, which could be due to conscious and/or subconscious mind trying to push out to you your inner or external thoughts and desires.

The first time it worked for me was after trying the exercises for around 20 days or so.
The world that you go to, is definitely not built by your mind because geometry, geography, people, material, could be SO various and alien to your knowledge and are indeed extremely detailed even more than normal life.
You could find out something new, people, places or some intriguing house for example which has absolutely nothing to do with anything you have seen in your whole life, hence, there is no way that your conscious or subconscious mind would be doing the trick by some sort of suggestion or hallucination method, especially with such detail and precision.

The experience is 99.9 % real, you can go wherever you want, explore things, get close to objects and examine closely every single detail.
Sometimes you meet people, and sometimes you might ride in in an adventure, e.g once I flew from our winter house to our summer house just to have fun and to see if i had a good memory of the road.

Familiar places are found many times as this is the case when you make a clean projection (when you project over your bed or where you live).
New places are found as well with different characters.


As I said, it is real and it's one of the most releasing and refreshing experiences I have had and when you come back from wherever you were, sometimes you feel you just wish you could stay more (needs more concentration and exercise on the vibrations).
The places you go to are known usually to have "physical priority" response to what you need, meaning :

- you could go through walls or solid objects (but not always and it needs concentration usually)
- you could fly (because normally you are floating like a ghost, not walking steps, and you don't TURN your head around but instead your whole perception rotates and turns same like playing a rpg game with the view maximized on your screen/not watching the character itself)
- you could create fire and possess other powers
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Anyways, that's most of it, I hope it helped, Cheers !