Thread: Idea

Hello All, I'm a newbie, good to meet everyone here. First, thanks to you all for sharing your experiences, I've really learned a lot from you!

I had an idea today, perhaps it's already been tried, I'd be interested to know what you experienced LD'ers think: I've been doing RC's in real life, and I've had moderate success so far with LDs since starting to work on it for the last 6 weeks (3 LDs so far, but short-lived). I was wondering, in addition to RCs, what about trying to incorporate or merge dream life into real life? What if, in addition to asking ourselves IRL all day long, "Am I dreaming?", and doing tests to check (and we already pretty much expect the negative answer, don't we) -- we also try to use dream powers all day long, *expecting* them to work?

It might go like this: I'm sitting in my office, and I just expect I can move an object by thinking about it, so I try to do it it. I'm out running, I expect I can fly, and I leap into the air (okay, hopefully while no one is watching I'm at home and I attempt to conjure a DC or teleport somewhere else. All day, at various occasions, I get myself in that dream-thinking state, and expect that I can exhibit supernatural powers. Of course, they'll never actually occur, but that's not the point.

The point, in theory, is that if you can make RCs a habit and eventually bring them into dream life, then constantly attempting dream powers IRL should eventually manifest itself into dream life. What's more, you're already exhibiting control, and EXPECTING it to work. Instead of checking to see if I'm awake or dreaming, I'd already be demonstrating control, without doubt that I can make whatever supernatural power I'm attempting work.

This seems to me to be a more positive way of thinking too: instead of *asking* the question "Am I dreaming" and having doubt that it's true, now I'm *asserting* that I have powers, and I assume it's true (yes, there may be doubt, but there won't in dream life). Besides trying to bring real life questions into waking life (habitual RCs), you're also trying to draw dream world thinking into real life. The difference in "feeling" between dream life and real life might become a little smaller, I might just spontaneously (and frequently) attempt supernatural powers in my dreams, because I'm so used to it in real life.

So what do you think, has anyone tried this? Anyone willing to try to see if it helps them?

Thanks again!

I'd always put lucidity before control. Always. Otherwise, what is control if you think you're flying in real life, only to wake up dissappointed? This is why trying to use dream powers is an unreliable reality check (it could also fail if the dream powers do not work in the dream, just as they didn't work in real life).

It doesn't hurt to daydream after using a reality check, though.

I agree with Abra. If you pretend to use your powers during the day, you might not recognize that its a dream when they actually work. (lol it would be nice to have telepathy irl though.)

How would you not reconise if you suddenly started flying?!?
If that isn't obvious then what is?

Originally Posted by Barns

How would you not reconise if you suddenly started flying?!?
If that isn't obvious then what is?

The same way people can dream they're in a movie or a book or some other thing they like. Dream logic allows all kinds of wacky stuff without you noticing anything is wrong.
I fly and use other powers in my dreams all the time. It never makes me lucid, because in my dream logic its perfectly acceptable.

This is one reason this wouldn't work for me. I already use powers in most of my dreams, and it doesn't trigger lucidity. Reality Checks are more reliable. Although personally I haven't gotten into a good enough RC habit yet, I've only had one LD triggered by one.

I believe there's something to what PaleRider has suggested, but it may not be for everyone. I know some people's dreams tend to be fairly mundane, like a distortion of their waking life. And here RC's should work well, because they "carry over" into the dream world. Personally, however, my dreams rarely have anything to do with my waking reality... otherwise I'd be performing RC's as often as I do when I'm awake. So something more fundamental is required. And it's this that led me to experiment with the "omnipotence factor." Essentially, we are omnipotent for a third of our lives, only we don't realise it. Trying to exercise this omnipotence throughout the day (to verify one's "location") may carry over more easily for some than standard RC's. Floating or flying dreams should also then alert the dreamer to their omnipotence, and therefore their "location" (in the dream world). That's what happened to me, anyway.

It's all very frustrating though, which is what led me to experiment with supplements instead. I want guaranteed lucidity and I want it EVERY night!!