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      Mind reader

      http://technology.newscientist.com/a...e-can-see.html

      I thought this article was pretty interesting.

      I have been waiting for something like this forever.

      What do you guys think?

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      I think it's a very dangerous thing. Pretty neat, no doubt, but what's in my head is MINE!

      (fyi, see 1980's movie "Brainstorm" - 20 years ahead of it's time I guess)

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      There is already ways to get the truth out of someone when they are quite sleepy.
      It's a torture way so it ain't legal, and i'm not going to tell how

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xallie View Post
      There is already ways to get the truth out of someone when they are quite sleepy.
      It's a torture way so it ain't legal, and i'm not going to tell how
      Wait.... what? I've had a bit of a conversation once when I was laying beside my ex and I was getting into deep sleep and started hearing sounds from the HIs. Is this what you mean?

      I want to know...

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      "It is going to be particularly powerful in the field of visual perception and possibly the field of decoding motor responses," says John-Dylan Haynes of the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Leipzig, Germany.
      The research also hints that scientists might one day be able to access dreams, memories and imagery, says Haynes, providing the brain processes dreams in a way that is analogous to visual stimuli.
      "The difficulty is that that it's very hard to set up models for other types of complex thoughts, such as memories and intentions," Haynes says.
      This is interesting. I wonder if eventually I'll be able to record my dreams in video and not have to worry about keeping a dream journal.

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      I must admit I have been waiting for something like this device. I have also thought it would be a cool and useful device if made in the way of dreams. But I am unsure we are ready for such a thing to be made, it might get abused and become a device like (I say like because it was precog. In the movie) what they used in Minority Report to catch people before they committed crimes. Just because I think it does not make it true. Thoughts are a very privet thing and using such a device to read peoples thoughts with out their permission would be like raping them IMO.

      So in the aspect of being able to visually record my dreams as they are happening or such, I think it would be a great device, but it does have scary implications as well. We can never have the good with out the bad in such cases

      But thanks for sharing the info.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tornado Joe View Post
      (fyi, see 1980's movie "Brainstorm" - 20 years ahead of it's time I guess)
      Never seen the movie, but I just read the plot summary for it and it makes a very interesting point:

      What if someone used that device while they're dying? We'd be able to see what happens in their head - and what they think while they're passing away.

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      I like the idea of seeing my dreams, maybe it will make lucid dreaming a competitive sport, I doubt it though . imagen downloading your dreams and changing them to .avi or .mov from .drm or .rem
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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod View Post
      I like the idea of seeing my dreams, maybe it will make lucid dreaming a competitive sport, I doubt it though .
      Hey, you never know what could happen 20 years from now.

      Anyone here will be having a huge head start though. haha. I'm gonna go ahead and start practicing 8 hours a day until lucid dreaming does become a competitive sport.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Icelus View Post
      What do you guys think?
      It would definately solve my dream recall problems.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tyrantt23 View Post
      This is interesting. I wonder if eventually I'll be able to record my dreams in video and not have to worry about keeping a dream journal.
      That would be awesome. The only bad thing is people could see my dreams =[ some of them are of sex and if my parents saw them they would kill me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elite View Post
      That would be awesome. The only bad thing is people could see my dreams =[ some of them are of sex and if my parents saw them they would kill me.
      Well, I'm sure that by the time the device is mature enough to be used in households, you'll be an adult and you won't have to worry about your parent's not liking your sexual dreams.


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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamingGhost View Post
      I must admit I have been waiting for something like this device. I have also thought it would be a cool and useful device if made in the way of dreams. But I am unsure we are ready for such a thing to be made, it might get abused and become a device like (I say like because it was precog. In the movie) what they used in Minority Report to catch people before they committed crimes. Just because I think it does not make it true. Thoughts are a very privet thing and using such a device to read peoples thoughts with out their permission would be like raping them IMO.

      So in the aspect of being able to visually record my dreams as they are happening or such, I think it would be a great device, but it does have scary implications as well. We can never have the good with out the bad in such cases

      But thanks for sharing the info.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tyrantt23 View Post
      Wait.... what? I've had a bit of a conversation once when I was laying beside my ex and I was getting into deep sleep and started hearing sounds from the HIs. Is this what you mean?

      I want to know...


      This is interesting. I wonder if eventually I'll be able to record my dreams in video and not have to worry about keeping a dream journal.
      well. that's a way to do it to. but i didn't think of that one.

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      Some of you guys are jumping the gun a bit =P

      I think it would be great to record my dreams one day, but this technology is far from doing that =(

      Doubt we will have to worry about people perusing our thoughts anytime soon.

      It will probably be decades before any commercial use based on it is ever used. Considering they have to use an fMRI just to do it...

      Either way, it sounds awesome to me. I think it could make some pretty neat advancements in the field of dreaming, both lucid and non-lucid.

      When it comes to privacy, I was thinking something along the lines of minority report too. I mean, a simple test, theoretically, could tell us what kind of person you are or what you have done. That would be a lethal weapon in the legal area. Something like this is far away, and even when it does appear, it will take time for it to become a credible piece of evidence I am sure.

      Also, the idea about using it on someone while they are dying - love it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tornado Joe View Post
      I think it's a very dangerous thing. Pretty neat, no doubt, but what's in my head is MINE!

      (fyi, see 1980's movie "Brainstorm" - 20 years ahead of it's time I guess)
      Quote Originally Posted by tyrantt23 View Post
      Never seen the movie, but I just read the plot summary for it and it makes a very interesting point:

      What if someone used that device while they're dying? We'd be able to see what happens in their head - and what they think while they're passing away.
      Actually, this is exactly what happens in the movie! The death recording becomes classified.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Icelus View Post
      When it comes to privacy, I was thinking something along the lines of minority report too. I mean, a simple test, theoretically, could tell us what kind of person you are or what you have done. That would be a lethal weapon in the legal area. Something like this is far away, and even when it does appear, it will take time for it to become a credible piece of evidence I am sure.
      True sf affiacianados (sp) would point to David Brin's Sundiver. (Minority report has precognition, not a personality test). Without MRI, he has a personality test which monitors the subjects eye movements when they're shown a novel image. Those with "probationary personalities" are tagged and excluded from space travel or otherwise meeting the friendly neighbourhood aliens.
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      The world is turning into a Sci-fi movie! Eek!

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