Thread: When you open a box, you should also close it ...

I readed an article from Slovak Esoteric, who said, that, there are two kinds of sleep.

1. Human sleep
2. Animal sleep

Human sleep is characterised by lack of recall and consistent sleep schedule. In human sleep, dreamworld and waking world are occupying two distinct times of day (day and night). And they are separated .

Animal sleep could be characterised with unregular sleep. Pretty light sleep. And well dream and waking world are partially overlapped.

He also expressed, that making lots of wild and other ILD attempts, when we are trying to bring awareness into a dream. Also a part of dream world enters our waking life. So we are getting slowly getting used to Animal sleep.

We often sleep longer, and our fantasies are moving into real world.
He also warned us before the consequencies of animal sleep. And wrote that if we do some attempts, we should also compensate against them.

So if we work with dream mind, we should learn the means how to move back into waking state. Its probably the same as with all meditation states, if we do want to have them under control.

So:

Whenever we open the box, we should also close it

And this is what made me wonder actually, if we are not doing something wrong. There are lots of people, who became light sleepers (count me in), and were pretty heavy ones. There are lots of insomniacs there. Who werent before learning LD. We really should compensate.

Any comments on this?

P.S: I cannot provide you the real text, becouse it is provided only in slovak, but you may ask if you dont understand something and i might search and translate for you. Hope this will be an interesting discussion.

I was already an insomniac so I don't think it will make it worse, or at least I hope not.

Originally Posted by kingofclutch

I was already an insomniac so I don't think it will make it worse, or at least I hope not.

. Hopefully not.

I see what he's getting at. All this interrupted sleep surely can't be good for us.

But look at all the LD masters here. They've been practicing for years, and have had hundreds of LD's. They don't seem to be affected all too much. I think it's not as bad as it sounds, but it definitely has some repercussions.

I have actually become more focused on falling asleep.

However, I haven't gone lucid yet, so...I dunno.

This certianly a good question though...to what degree does lucid dreaming change our sleep schedules...

From my latest observations i found out, that our subconscious has some ways, how to compensate on its own. Reality checks stop working, we suddenly cannot remember dreams. We have dryspells. Maybe that are the forms of compensation against any change we try to establish in our sleep schedule. Maybe that is the reason, why we actually need a lot of time to learn lucid dreaming. Maybe that are the reasons why we sometimes must let go.

Originally Posted by Sean999

I see what he's getting at. All this interrupted sleep surely can't be good for us.

I suppose so, but from what I've understood everyone wakes up multiple times a night after a dream ends already, but you fall asleep very quickly after so you don't remember most of the times.

Originally Posted by Iamerik

I suppose so, but from what I've understood everyone wakes up multiple times a night after a dream ends already, but you fall asleep very quickly after so you don't remember most of the times.

Good point. But induction techniques take their time and we are discrupting sleep schedule. Still I dont take this as a major problem, if there are periods of uninterupted sleep inbetween.