Thread: Questioning Reality

Thanks guys, from the sounds of that, I'm not going to wilfully pursue LDing any further. I'm already confused enough about life, death and the universe without confusing things further.

NOO!! Why would you say that!?!?

Just think of this as...a way to achieve lucidity for you. That's all it seems like to me. Nothing that needs to be overly thought over. Just as simple as that; a tool to help achieve lucidity.

So many words

So little substance

It is not a matter of questioning the things one sees

What is, Is


There is no denying the wind on your face,

The petal on the flower,

The raindrop falling on the lake

All is real


It is you, yourself, that comes into question

Just where do you fit into this realm of seeing, experiencing?

To answer that, you need to know just what your identity is in all this

What is your relationship to all of these "things" of reality?


If you dream, and you become lucid.....

What is it exactly that is lucid?

Is it you, your body/person? the name? all the associations with that name?

Or, is it a point of awareness that is lucid?

A point that is you, uniquely yours


The only point that will truly come into question will be yourself

If Lucid dreaming is seen as an instrument of great teaching

If it is not merely used as a playground, and extension of the ego

Then it becomes a key to unlocking many great answers


Keys played with

Continually held in the hands of an infant child

Seen as nothing but toys

Unlock nothing

With all due respect to the above poster, this is precisely why I don’t want my perceptions of reality altered. Whilst you may very well think there was something profound and transcendent in that poem, everyone else just thinks you’re a stoner. No offence. I really don’t want to end up like that.

Originally Posted by heebiejeebies

With all due respect to the above poster, this is precisely why I don’t want my perceptions of reality altered. Whilst you may very well think there was something profound and transcendent in that poem, everyone else just thinks you’re a stoner. No offence. I really don’t want to end up like that.

Stoner infers the use of drugs, or other outside influences

"Batshit Crazy" would be a little less misleading



Seriously though, lucidity is awareness. Once you start cultivating it in your dream state, it is likely going to spill over into every other facet of your life. That does not mean you will become like a "stoner", or a 60's hippie wannabe. You can go where you want with it. You are driving your own ship, and you only put into it what you want to get out of it.

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

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Hey guy, you get high from how cool and "spiritual" you are, aren't you?
Stop confusing the starter of this topic, he was asking a serious question and didn't need attention-hungry people to "impress" him by repeating what they read somewhere and about what they now imagine themselves to be "knowledgeable".

This is why I took a break from my LD pursuit. After I had my first LD a couple of weeks ago I realized they I dont want to do RCs all the time and always be questioning things just for the sake of being aware in something that isnt real* and will eventually be forgotten like all other dreams. After living 19 years and then "living" in a dream there is no question in my mind which one is real (as real is normally defined)

And fortunatly, as of last night, I have found a way to have LDs without having to do RCs and other such nonsense throughtout the day (we will see if it was just a fluke)

*waits for someone to go "bu but your waking life isnt real either!1!1 real life is a dream!1!!"

roff

I don't think questioning your reality will change your waking life one bit. I don't think it will make the line between reality and dreaming any less clear in the real world. You only do it so you will question your reality in your dreams. It like a rollover effect. In your dreams is when you need to question it so you can be lucid, and that will be the only difference.

Originally Posted by IWantToChange

Hey guy, you get high from how cool and "spiritual" you are, aren't you?
Stop confusing the starter of this topic, he was asking a serious question and didn't need attention-hungry people to "impress" him by repeating what they read somewhere and about what they now imagine themselves to be "knowledgeable".

If you really want to change , you must begin by seeing past your own ego...


just as the OP must learn to see past his own ego and therefore his own fear

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

If you really want to change , you must begin by seeing past your own ego...
just as the OP must learn to see past his own ego and therefore his own fear

It's always funny how an attention-hungry "spiritual" person with a big ego teaches others to be egoless, man. I wasn't asking for your ignorant advice, was I?

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

Keys played with
Continually held in the hands of an infant child
Seen as nothing but toys
Unlock nothing

Actually, I think that is something to think about.

Originally Posted by Schmaven

Actually, I think that is something to think about.

Such keys are meant to be used and then let go of

To marvel at them and make more of them than they are

Hinderance

Obscurement

this is interesting

There is nothing you can hold onto - such a flux, but awareness
Forget watched objects, and become the watching, become lucidity, hold on to that which has never changed - You

Where is the fear now?