Thread: Enjoy this article, it makes some valid points.

That was an excellent read, and both articles do make both interesting and definitive points. The thing that interested me the most was in the first article about consciously confronting subconscious struggles in a rational way, leading to actually changing subconscious thought, and internal struggles. It leads me to believe that the subconscious mind is actually very malleable, because it's constantly thinking, considering, and extrapolating on ideas, thoughts, and emotions, and therefore can be gently guided into thinking differently based on the techniques listed through conscious intervention.

thanks for the read!!

Ive been having trouble with lucid dreaming actually. For a long time actually, I began to see no point in it. Ive always felt that dreams were meaningful, at least to the extent that they reveal things about your own psyche. Show you how you can be a different person.

I've had dozens of memorable and meaningful dreams, but only a tiny fraction were lucid. Playing with lucid control, like controlling the environment, or manipulating things quickly bored me. My non lucid dreams are more, spontaneous, mysterious, and leave me wanting more. So these days, Ive been very passive if I have a lucid dream, more like traveling in the dream world rather than trying to manipulate it at every turn

Its nice to see how you can bring back some of the meaning into a lucid dream rather than just dream control. Ive never really thought about asking dream characters questions.

The last few times I asked dream characters questions, I got, well, questionable results

this one dream character had been creating several nightmares. I finally got tired of this dream character creating so many nightmares, and confronted her in a lucid dream. We had a little chat first, and she explained to me, that she was a real person, not a dream character. And that she was in control, not me. Well, I got fed up of her claiming that she was in control of my own head - so I uh - killed her in the lucid dream. But before I did, she begged for mercy and cried out that she meant no real harm.

She never showed up in my dreams again.

But she wasn't the last of the dream characters who would tell me, that they were real people. I'm not sure what this means. I mean, I even got the point where I began harassing these self proclaiming real people for their full names, addresses and phone numbers. Just in case I was actually interacting with real dreamers.

Nothing ever came up of course.

Were the dream characters saying they are real people, as an aspect of myself? or is it really that no one can remember their bloody house number properly?

I'm only halfway through, but it's very good material
I've been using LDs for combating fears since I was a child, but after reading this, I realise that I wasn't doing it as effectively as possible (ie. it took multiple nightmares of that fear before I properly handled it)

Tholey was a cool guy. He learned a bunch of acrobatic sports in lucid dreaming:



And I've learned lucid dreaming from him.

amazing reading thanks a lot for sharing!

I dont agree with this: "The single most destructive advice is to encourage people to manipulate their dreams to have happy endings," Delaney says. "I
encourage people to use lucidity to explore the dream rather than to control it." In this regard, she believes it is often better for people to start up terrified from a nightmare than to awaken calm from a lucid dream that they have sugarcoated. The nightmare forces the dreamer to recognize that he or she is conflicted or in trouble."

This is very important piece of information. Heck I'm glad you brought this out here for us to read up, thankz very much

[QUOTE=transflux;937771]Tholey was a cool guy. He learned a bunch of acrobatic sports in lucid dreaming:


Very nice!.