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    1. 07-15-2008 03:40 PM #1
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      Becoming a Natural?

      Hi everyone;
      So, I've been thinking about this for a while and I have to ask. What makes a natural? What do they have that we as "un-naturals" don't have? Can whatever this quality be learned, thereby eliminating the need for the countless techniques? If this quality could be learned would it allow us to lucid dream completely at will?

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    2. 07-15-2008 05:26 PM #2
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      well, i am a natural and the only thing that separates the naturals from the non-natural lucid dreamers,i thought,is that we just had lucid dreams like normal dreams.i didn't think you could learn to be a natural because you would have had to learn it. i'm not sure what you're asking but the way i have lucid dreams is that i think of what i want to dream about before i fall asleep and i fall asleep thinking of it knowing i will be dreaming soon.another way i become lucid in my dreams is i will see something that wouldn't happen or couldn't be there in real life so i am like wtf? oh its a dream. i have no idea what any of the techniques are to make someone lucid dream so i can't help you there. er...did i answer anything?
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    3. 07-15-2008 05:29 PM #3
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      I'd like to think they are naturals due to some genetic wiring, causing certain chemicals to be released and connections to be made in the later REM periods instead of when truly waking. If this is the case, it would explain why naturals don't have lucid dreams as often in their first REM periods. The definition of natural means you can't learn how to be a natural. You can get the frequency of a natural, though.
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    4. 07-16-2008 01:37 AM #4
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      I also consider it to be genetic. I have had about 30 or 40 in my life-time, and they were just, spontanious, no WILD or DIELD or secret trick. No secret food (unless southern food is magic that way, or hot sauce...), the only reason that I want new methods is that I want to LD more often. Only about 5% of my dreams are ever natural, but they happen here and there, usually when I am sick. Maybe it is a way of my subconscious "releasing" me from whatever it is momentarily. I don't know.
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    5. 07-16-2008 01:49 AM #5
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      People have master the skill when they can lucid dream almost every night without techniques. But it takes practices......
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    6. 07-16-2008 04:00 AM #6
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      I think the more you practice the techniques, the easier or more "natural" it will be for you to attain lucidity.
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    7. 07-16-2008 05:46 AM #7
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      This was discussed in another thread.
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    8. 07-16-2008 06:55 PM #8
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      Thanks for giving me that thread, AlexLou. Thanks everyone for the information and helping me to understand what makes a natural.

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