Thread: Dream time V.S. Real time ( is it the same )

Yes, it's pretty much the same. Stephen LaBerge has done research on it and proved that they are (almost) the same. I don't have the link to where I read up on it, but I'm sure you can find it with a Google search, or maybe on www.lucidity.com .

Good luck on your paper!

Originally Posted by Luminous

Yes, it's pretty much the same. Stephen LaBerge has done research on it and proved that they are (almost) the same. I don't have the link to where I read up on it, but I'm sure you can find it with a Google search, or maybe on www.lucidity.com .

Good luck on your paper!

Thx ,

Everybody please feel free to post your experiences about the subject. I still want to hear personal views on the subject.

For me sometimes, i think its close to real time, but the fact that i can get
from point A to point B a hell of a lot quicker then anyone in reality can,
means time is not wasted anyway. But one time i spent two days and one
night in the LD but in reality only 5 or 10 minutes passed.
Apparently there is someone here who had a LD that lasted for 60 years.
60 long years and not split second years either! But in reality it was
really only a few minutes or so....something like that.

Originally Posted by supreme

For me sometimes, i think its close to real time, but the fact that i can get
from point A to point B a hell of a lot quicker then anyone in reality can,
means time is not wasted anyway. But one time i spent two days and one
night in the LD but in reality only 5 or 10 minutes passed.
Apparently there is someone here who had a LD that lasted for 60 years.
60 long years and not split second years either! But in reality it was
reality only a few minutes or so....something like that.

Cool thx, I have heard people say that too. Which made me get really interested in the subject. Too bad I suck at LD , so I don't have personal experiences about it.

Yes, dreams (especially non lucid) can feel like they last for longer than they actually do, because dreams scenes change, giving you the idea that you traveled from A to B even though you instantly went from A to B because the dream scene changed. It's like scene changes in a movie. Also, your brain have a tendency to generate false memories during the dream which can also give you the idea that more things have happened than what has actually happened during the dream. I have a tendency to have false memories in lucid dreams, which can confuse me about how long I've been dreaming, but I can tell the true memories from the false memories when I wake up.

Originally Posted by Halocuber

May I ask just what you are rolling your eyes at?

Idk , lol

Several things. For one, travel time is often greatly reduced, as is time waiting for something. Occasionally, time may be stretc hed out, such as it taking what seems like hours or minutes to run across a field or room respectively. I feel that it is mostly subjective. As compared to time passing in waking life, well, in several dreams I have fallen asleep for a few minutes and had several hours of non0luciod dreams, and once had a false awakening that was nearly a weekl and a half long. So I would say that dreamtime goes abot as fast as your subconscious can hande feeding events to your unconscious mind.

Originally Posted by JET73L

Several things. For one, travel time is often greatly reduced, as is time waiting for something. Occasionally, time may be stretc hed out, such as it taking what seems like hours or minutes to run across a field or room respectively. I feel that it is mostly subjective. As compared to time passing in waking life, well, in several dreams I have fallen asleep for a few minutes and had several hours of non0luciod dreams, and once had a false awakening that was nearly a weekl and a half long. So I would say that dreamtime goes abot as fast as your subconscious can hande feeding events to your unconscious mind.

Very interesting , Thx for posting

Originally Posted by Luminous

Yes, dreams (especially non lucid) can feel like they last for longer than they actually do, because dreams scenes change, giving you the idea that you traveled from A to B even though you instantly went from A to B because the dream scene changed. It's like scene changes in a movie. Also, your brain have a tendency to generate false memories during the dream which can also give you the idea that more things have happened than what has actually happened during the dream. I have a tendency to have false memories in lucid dreams, which can confuse me about how long I've been dreaming, but I can tell the true memories from the false memories when I wake up.

Thats a good way to explain how my time goes by in a LD. Like movie scenes
almost. One minute youre sitting, waiting for the night to pass, and the next
minute its the next day. lol You trick your mind into thinking the correct time
has elapsed, even tho you havent felt as tho you had been whiling away
hrs and hrs. Also, in no way do you feel like youve been away for that
long a time when you awaken. lol its hard to explain!

Hmm... I don't think there is a way to tell EXACTLY since everyone's dreams are different. Especially since travel is severely different in dreams as opposed to real life as you can get from one side of the world to the other in a split second.

I do however, believe that it is based off of our perception of time, since most of what we know in our dreams is somehow related to reality.

It differs for me.

I might dream for 2 minutes, and when I wake up 2 hours have passed.
Or
I might dream for 2 hours, and when I wake up 2 minutes have passed. o.O
Or
I might dream for 2 hours, and when I wake up 2 hours really have passed.

Most of the time my dreams last for half the time I'm really asleep. Like 4 hours of dreams in 8 hours of sleep.

Originally Posted by Scarhand

Hmm... I don't think there is a way to tell EXACTLY since everyone's dreams are different. Especially since travel is severely different in dreams as opposed to real life as you can get from one side of the world to the other in a split second.

I do however, believe that it is based off of our perception of time, since most of what we know in our dreams is somehow related to reality.

So true! In this one LD i had for two days, i did not forget about having
a nighttime in it so that i could get to a new day, er um.....?

Originally Posted by supreme

So true! In this one LD i had for two days, i did not forget about having
a nighttime in it so that i could get to a new day, er um.....?

I somewhat understand what you're getting at. You mean you had a Lucid Dream and it went on for two days and you remembered about nighttime so it continued over?

Woah.

Originally Posted by Mini Man56

It differs for me.

I might dream for 2 minutes, and when I wake up 2 hours have passed.
Or
I might dream for 2 hours, and when I wake up 2 minutes have passed. o.O
Or
I might dream for 2 hours, and when I wake up 2 hours really have passed.

Most of the time my dreams last for half the time I'm really asleep. Like 4 hours of dreams in 8 hours of sleep.

thats true for me as well, but not for LDing tho because i always have a
sense of the true time in them. Even the two day one.

Originally Posted by supreme

thats true for me as well, but not for LDing tho because i always have a
sense of the true time in them. Even the two day one.

I assume that you have a sense of time in Lucid dreams because you are aware. In a regular dream you are passively watching what is happening.

Originally Posted by Scarhand

I somewhat understand what you're getting at. You mean you had a Lucid Dream and it went on for two days and you remembered about nighttime so it continued over?

Woah.

it was a weird one and i wish i had known about DJs then. But i was flying
around and waiting for someone, is all i can remember. And i landed on
this like tin roof of a shed or a delapitated garage or something, to sit
and wait. It is all so fuzzy now. Anyway while i sat there, nighttime passed
and then it was day again. I remember trees all around with no leaves
as tho it were fall. Whoever it was that i was waiting for showed up the
next day but i cant remember anything else....who or what. I think i was
spying on someone or some damned thing. I woke up not too long after that
without changing the circumstances of that dream.
But ill bet that was 5 - 6 yrs ago. I had completely forgotten about it until
i was reminded of it here the other day. That was the longest LD of time
passing i have ever had, and i knew that only 5 or 10 minutes had only
passed in reality. I can say that because i always know.....so i must have
known then as well. It was a LD tho, that much i do remember.

Originally Posted by Scarhand

I assume that you have a sense of time in Lucid dreams because you are aware. In a regular dream you are passively watching what is happening.

yes but i do participate in NLs as well tho. But i usually dont know im
dreaming. I remember NLs where i thought i must be dreaming but i
didnt know about using that for a dream sign to try and become lucid.
Usually when that happens i just try and will myself awake, or just
keep going with the impossible theme.
Even in dreams where i was most obviously dreaming because something
very very strange was happening, i wouldnt realize it until i woke up.
I always have nightmares of bears chasing me and over the years ive
learned to climb a house and get up on the roof to get away from them.
But they are always totally non lucid and just nightmares. The next time
i have one im going to try and use it as a dream sign to become lucid.
But i usually believe at the time its really happening so im not sure if
it will actually work.....im always pretty scared so i probably wont question
that a bear is chasing me down and make light of it. If it does work tho....
ill just fly away.

Originally Posted by supreme

yes but i do participate in NLs as well tho. But i usually dont know im
dreaming. I remember NLs where i thought i must be dreaming but i
didnt know about using that for a dream sign to try and become lucid.
Usually when that happens i just try and will myself awake.
Even in dreams where i was most obviously dreaming because something
out of the ordinary was happening i wouldnt realize it until i woke up.
I always have nightmares of bears chasing me and over the years ive
learned to climb a house and get up on the roof to get away from them.
But they are always totally non lucid and just nightmares. The next time
i have one im going to try and use it as a dream sign to become lucid.
But i usually believe at the time its really happening so im not sure if
it will actually work.....im always scared so i probably wont question a
bear is chasing me down and make light of it. If it does work tho....ill just
fly away.

A good trick I use to become lucid is to continuously repeat "I will remember I am dreaming" while I'm falling asleep.

Trust me, it works!

Originally Posted by Scarhand

A good trick I use to become lucid is to continuously repeat "I will remember I am dreaming" while I'm falling asleep.

Trust me, it works!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but autosuggestion is already known by most of us...

Edit: But it DOES work! n_n

Thx everyone for replying to this. I hope more will join in this too

why would it be the same?
No. Apparently you did not study your REM sleep. The mind builds the primary ingredients of a dream for a short time in an alpha sleep. This then loads in under 2 or 3 seconds for the vast majority of dreams. The exterior interface with the matrix is limited in time experience to the sampling rate of the senses
and the processing rate of the brain. No such limitations exist in brodmann brain area communications. 60 Year long Lucid dreams are really not that hard to come by for expert lucid dreamers, and in real time, that probably happens in well under 10 minutes.
I'm scandalously floored at some of the answers. You people really should get more research done and quit chattering in circles, pretending knowledge you don't have and thus giving each other false ideas.