Thread: Is it possible to slowdown time in a dream?

Originally Posted by AirRick101

the answer is a resounding YES

any law of physics can be broken in dreamz, yo

Sorry, you're completely wrong here.
All research into the experience of time in lucid dreams has shown that it operates at close to identical as that of waking life.

HOWEVER you can of course create the illusion of time speeding up or slowing down. You'll still be thinking in real time however, but you could for example freeze the world around you, or speed it up. It's an illusion though.

Time is purely subjective. Time is nothing but a concept of the human mind to measure change. Out there, in reality, time does not exist. So knowing the experiencing of time is nothing but a concept of the human mind, you can come to the obvious conclusion, that just like you can control anything else in your dreams that is made up by your mind, you can also control the experience of time, because it is actually you yourself who thinks up time and the experience of time.

Now the cool thing about this is, when you slow down the experience of time, you will actually start to think faster. Aldous Huxley used this trick of the mind, he could go into light trance for a few minutes, to experience 7 hours in order to develop writing themes.

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

Sorry, you're completely wrong here.
All research into the experience of time in lucid dreams has shown that it operates at close to identical as that of waking life.

HOWEVER you can of course create the illusion of time speeding up or slowing down. You'll still be thinking in real time however, but you could for example freeze the world around you, or speed it up. It's an illusion though.

What studies, other than that one LaBerge study I mentioned, establish this?

Originally Posted by archdreamer

What studies, other than that one LaBerge study I mentioned, establish this?

There have been several.
Not just in the Lucidity field but in Oneiroligy in general.

If i recal correctly LaBerge is the most well known, Hearne did similar experiments.

LaBerge's studies have been confirmed by further studies also, such as this one:
http://daniel.erlacher.de/index.php/...n_lucid_dreams

I'm not saying that the experience of percived time in dreams may not change. I for one have had dreams where i've frozen time around me, sped it up, and slowed it down. However, it was only the environment around me that was effected. I could for example "fast forward" a whole day of external environmental experience in the dream, however, the actual time for me doing (perciving) this would still be say, 5 minutes in perceptual time.

I don't think it's a huge leap of the imagination to realise that the human brain is a physical organ with processing limitations. These limitations, the speed of thought so to say, should be pretty similar in dreaming as in waking.

Also how exactly would time be changed in a dream not just the illusion of the dream environment time changing?
Wouldn't that require a complete reworking of physics as we know it?

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

There have been several.
Not just in the Lucidity field but in Oneiroligy in general.

If i recal correctly LaBerge is the most well known, Hearne did similar experiments.

LaBerge's studies have been confirmed by further studies also, such as this one:
http://daniel.erlacher.de/index.php/...n_lucid_dreams

I'm not saying that the experience of percived time in dreams may not change. I for one have had dreams where i've frozen time around me, sped it up, and slowed it down. However, it was only the environment around me that was effected. I could for example "fast forward" a whole day of external environmental experience in the dream, however, the actual time for me doing (perciving) this would still be say, 5 minutes in perceptual time.

I don't think it's a huge leap of the imagination to realise that the human brain is a physical organ with processing limitations. These limitations, the speed of thought so to say, should be pretty similar in dreaming as in waking.

Also how exactly would time be changed in a dream not just the illusion of the dream environment time changing?
Wouldn't that require a complete reworking of physics as we know it?

Thanks for the link, I was not aware of this study. However, it seems that these results, while supporting LaBerge's data, don't really establish anything new. None of the participants were attempting to change the relationship between real time and subjective dream time, or claimed to be able to, as far as I can tell.

Time dilation. The subject that always pops right back up.

First lets cover the basics: can you use time dilation in dreams? no

This is simple, a logical contradiction.. If you speed up time consciously then you will know time is sped up and it will not seem like normal time anymore. So, no you aren't gonna be getting 2x dream length through TD. The rest is really peanuts.

Ah hell, the rest is peanuts and everyone else has explained most of the best arguments already XD no use repeating.

Originally Posted by arby

This is simple, a logical contradiction.. If you speed up time consciously then you will know time is sped up and it will not seem like normal time anymore. So, no you aren't gonna be getting 2x dream length through TD. The rest is really peanuts.

What?

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

Sorry, you're completely wrong here.
All research into the experience of time in lucid dreams has shown that it operates at close to identical as that of waking life.

HOWEVER you can of course create the illusion of time speeding up or slowing down. You'll still be thinking in real time however, but you could for example freeze the world around you, or speed it up. It's an illusion though.

This ***** went to neruology college.