Instantaneous dream memory loss and intangibles

[cygnus]

hey guys - i've had a decent number of lucid dreams in the past, but something new to me has come up involving my recall. i always have a digital voice recorder next to my bed, so ease in recording dreams (assuming i still have the memory) isn't a problem. i consider a normal lucid dream one in which i know i'm dreaming and i wake up with at least a hint of this awareness, and then i record a nice happy story about it. but there have been a couple instances when i have a lucid or non-lucid dream very close to the time when i wake up, and things are vivid and i know what's going on and that i'm about to wake up, but the instant i'm awake it's like i've changed brains or something. i just have a very vague, intangible feeling as if the experience was too alien to put into words. you might be thinking that i should keep my eyes closed after waking and not move, and it could be just that. but i'm thinking that after some dreams you just don't have any point of reference to form a memory or even a concept about it. for example - one of my favorite electronic musicians, bola, has some interesting album art that i'll look at and my mind is just like...ummm... does not compute. Fyuti: Soup: but seriously, if anybody has any insight about how we process information/memories that don't fit our normal way of perceiving/making concepts, i'd love to hear it. is our daily reality not inherently real and only an interpretation derived from continuing and shared conceptual patterns and processes? any ideas? also if you know of similar images that'd be cool too.

[yuriythebest]

do NOT move at all when you wake- lye in bed as still as possible without opening your eyes for a good 10 minutes recalling the dream, replay it in your mind.

[tommo]

I have the same ting. As soon as I wake up it's like, that happened? It feels REALLY 'distant' in a way. No thoughts unfortunately. Actually.... I have thought about it before and the only thing I can think of that explains it is it is just like normal memory. I mean, think about something you did 10 minutes ago. To me, at least, it feels exactly the same recalling that as it does recalling an LD.

[DestFinis]

I have a hard time recalling my dreams because I keep forgetting to close my eyes when I wake up. My alarm clock, even though it's only 1 foot away from me, forces me to flick a switch to shut it off. I can't even wake without it however.

[tommo]

Yeah, I always take ages to actually 'wake up' though. Like even though I'm awake I'm still kind of knocked out. Then I only become aware that I'm awake a while later. When I open my eyes.

[Barbizzle]

The best thing to do is to keep your mind clear. DONT think about what you need to do that morning or the rest of the day. Ask yourself what just happened, where were you? Then if nothing comes after a few mins, just keep your mind clear and get ready for the day... Usually something will trigger your memory that morning. Then right it down, and more should follow.