is this full sleep paralysis or jus bs ?

[gaarav gosal]

so I am trying to wild and I'm trying to go into sp to wild. I know so is not a must to wild but I am trying it that way. I read almost all the wild guides and have also watched saltcube.com video on how to trick your body into fAlling asleep but keep your mind awake Aka mind awake body asleep. so now my question is I'm just in bed not moving and all and go into this really deep state of relaxation but I can still move if I try to like really reallly hard like when I get an in contolable itch so is this partial sp

[gaarav gosal]

I meant to say for the tittle is this full, partial paralysis or just bs

[GestaltAlteration]

We had a discussion like this in chat awhile back. I know what you're talking about because I've attempted the body asleep, mind awake technique quite a few times. Never succeeded. The definition of SP most accepted is that you are unable to move at all. Even if you feel tingling sensations, or feel that your sense of touch is dulling, it still is not sleep paralysis if you can still move. Only you can know if this is true for you or not. If not, and you can move with ease, than it's "BS". You mention you have to try really really hard. I'm not sure what to make of that, but I suppose you could be in SP for a small spell and then break out of it. Next time you feel you're in the state you mentioned try moving right away and see if you can.

[gaarav gosal]

thanx so much for replying dude. I just really want to lucid dream because I have never lucid dreamt yet. So u know I do t have to try really really hard but just like my hands and legs feel really heavy and it just doesn't seem right to move it but I still can. Thanx for any help.

[Tara]

Trust me, you'll know when you get into SP. It's usually very frightening your first time. And it comes on quite abruptly, not softly.

[GestaltAlteration]

thanx so much for replying dude. I just really want to lucid dream because I have never lucid dreamt yet. So u know I do t have to try really really hard but just like my hands and legs feel really heavy and it just doesn't seem right to move it but I still can. Thanx for any help. I tell this to a lot of people interested in WILDs. My advice, especially since you've had no lucid dreams, is to try other methods. Keep recording in that dream journal, try for a DILD or possibly experiment with MILD. I'm not sure how long you've been trying but it can be a decent slice of time to get your first (which in my case came unexpectidly after a couple of weeks of recording). When you have a regular flow of lucids, then give WILD your all. No use trying one of the hardest techniques right off the bat.

[gaarav gosal]

so to dild I should just reality check right. How often ? The reason I wanna wild is because wilds basically let some one lucid dream at will.

[GestaltAlteration]

so to dild I should just reality check right. How often ? The reason I wanna wild is because wilds basically let some one lucid dream at will. Once an hour. Or write down a couple dream-signs and RC whenever you see the sign in real life. (ie. I reality check when I see my dad because he's in a lot of my dreams, I reality check whenever I walk outside since a lot of my dreams are in large open spaces, etc). Other people will advise you different on how to get a DILD. Most importantly is just continuing to record your dreams and boost recall. Having a lucid dream at will could take ages for a non-natural. You're trying to get something in one leap instead of climbing the mountain that it is. Be patient, try out various things. You can still try WILDs, but you have to be willing to branch out and experiment with all the other kinds of lucid-obtaining methods. Just my two cents, anyway.

[moonshine]

The definition of SP most accepted is that you are unable to move at all. Even if you feel tingling sensations, or feel that your sense of touch is dulling, it still is not sleep paralysis if you can still move. Only you can know if this is true for you or not. If not, and you can move with ease, than it's "BS". You mention you have to try really really hard. I'm not sure what to make of that, but I suppose you could be in SP for a small spell and then break out of it. Next time you feel you're in the state you mentioned try moving right away and see if you can. Heres my take on in from another thread.... Not sure if its SP. SP is often (but no neccesarily) accompanied by Hypnogogic illusions caused by your bodies switching from external stimuli (touch, hearing, sight) to internally generated stimuli. A lot of people describe a warm tingling wave (some describe it as a mild electric shock) that comes over them, from toe to head as their body shuts down. They then can hear noises, feel vibrations or movements like they are shaking. Which of course they aren't. Some also describe what seems like a difficulty in breathing. I'm not sure, but this seems to be to describe your body switching to an automatic reflex. In reality your getting more than enough air, it just feels like your breathing quicker and shallower than you would during the day. Finally, a lot of people describe the feeling of their heart beat quickeing. This may be excitement, but has been described as another illusion created by the change from awake to dream mode. I'm not sure if you we're attempting to describe the above. If you were then it is likely you were near or in Sleep Paralysis. However, there are also common feelings as you progress to the above state. This is a relaxing of the body (some describe it as a lead blanket) and possibly pins and needles, probably due to your blood circulation slowing down. You are after all almost in a trance state. It is possible to move from this state, and you can be slow and sluggish, but it is not SP proper, which cannot be mistaken. It is however a definative stage on the way to SP, and should be celebrated. I'm don't agree with Shifts simplistic argument that if you can move you're not it SP. Your body is designed to switch SP on when you dream, and off when you awake. Almost everyone has experienced a nightmare where the instantly awake and sit bolt upright - which is proof positive that it can and should be quick. So it may well be perfectly possible to be in SP, but can break out of it at will if you need to (this is after all how the body is designed to work). Theres a lot of threads, discussions and tutorials on SP. You should read as much as you can and make up your own mind. There is also no beating personal experience. Hope this was of interest. Best of luck.

[Shift]

The definition of SP most accepted is that you are unable to move at all.

[pond weed]

the first night i looked up lucid dreaming, i had a full SP, i realised i couldnt move at all, got scared had a wierd tigly sensation (as said in moonshines quote) and then snapped out of it in panic. i was really pissed of with myself after. now when i go to sleep i keep absolutly still, but iv found that focusing on your body doesnt help me. i THINK what needs to be done, is to think about somthing, daydream, BUT dont daydream off to sleep like we do everynight, you need to return from your day dream, return just after your outer concious (part of the mind that controls the body) has sent this strange fluid down your spine that paralyses you ever night. so i think the trick is, training yourself to daydream for a certain amount of time and come back from it, instead of sinking of to sleep. now, often at night, in bed, i find myself daydreaming as usual andi snap out of the day dream and have a small (but definate) strange sentation like the one i got on the full SP, its on a much smaller scale but i know its that. i think its that the brain has 'started' to release the paralysing solution and i snap out of the daydream to early. 1) does anyone have any ideas on how one can daydream for a cotrolled amount of time, maybe a certain type of daydream which is guarenteed to end with you snapping out of it. 2) does anyone know how long it takes for the brain to release the strange paralysing liquid to the spine.

[Shift]

1) does anyone have any ideas on how one can daydream for a cotrolled amount of time, maybe a certain type of daydream which is guarenteed to end with you snapping out of it. 2) does anyone know how long it takes for the brain to release the strange paralysing liquid to the spine. Please take these to a new thread and don't hijack gaarav gosal's

[moonshine]

Please take these to a new thread and don't hijack gaarav gosal's To be fair, pond weeds contribution is related.

[pond weed]

the technique i have posted up is to 'help gaarav gosal', but the technique isnt 'complete'. if anyone has any ideas on those 2 points i made to help 'complete' the technique im sure it would benefit gaarav gosal and many others trying to achieve SP. any others who have had Sp and can remember it will know what im on about

[Shift]

the technique i have posted up is to 'help gaarav gosal', but the technique isnt 'complete'. if anyone has any ideas on those 2 points i made to help 'complete' the technique im sure it would benefit gaarav gosal and many others trying to achieve SP. any others who have had Sp and can remember it will know what im on about True, but the original topic of this thread is a discussion of whether or not his specific, personal experience was sleep paralysis or not. By creating a new thread addressing your concerns, it will be more easily located, identified, and read than if we bury it underneath his question. People seeking to address that topic will gravitate toward it, people who have information and advice to offer will recognize the topic and click it. The only relation between your two questions and his thread is that they both discuss sleep paralysis. It would be best if there were two separate threads, and if yours had a clearer title. Think about it- a thread discussing the lack of knowledge about whether or not an experience was sleep paralysis is not the place I would think to go for information regarding how to obtain SP. So please, start a new thread and if you would like to discuss please PM me or another DG.

[gaarav gosal]

thanx for all the help people!!!! all u guys are great buh still no lucid dream with mild or dild or wild..

[Tweek]

I've been trying for so long, not so motivated as of now, but I still think about it a lot. Patience my friend. Don't burn yourself out.