Thread: I still have a few minor questions and concerns

Originally Posted by Raevan

3.) Again, I read that you aren't supposed to swallow or anything as it breaks SP but it doesn't for me. I can swallow and make very minor eye/finger/toe movements and my SP doesn't diminish at all. Is this pushing me back at all?

Your heart beating wouldn't get you out of the paralysis of SP, so I don't know why peristalsis of the throat would. It's more optimistic and beneficial to lucid dreaming to assume it wouldn't than that it would, since I've never seen any actual evidence about it.

Um, if you liken SP to REM atonia, and then figure that REM is characterized by rapid eye movements, why would movement of the eyes bring you out of REM atonia? And if you extrapolate that to SP, which is pretty similar, why would eye movements take you out of SP?

The first thing you need to remember is that when it comes to WILDs and just lucid dreams in general, there really is no "should". In other words, there's no set-in-stone way to do things. It's different for everyone. Contrary to what many people say, swallowing will altimately not effect your WILD. At most, it will make it take slightly longer, because you will realize the presence of your physical body once more, and you'll have to re-find your dream-body--(That's a process that happens on its own. Don't worry about trying to consciously do it.)

As far as HI goes, I tell people to "observe" it, but don't concentrate on it. For me, it works to wait until the "scenery" of things start. They will eventually fade into very short little scenes, that eventually turn into entire dreams. The danger is just falling out of consciousness into non-lucid sleep. Above all else, try to stay passively conscious. But don't over think it

And as far as the "wave" you "should" feel, once again, there is no "should" in WILD. As long as you get to SP, it doesn't matter how you got there.

Originally Posted by Rainman

The first thing you need to remember is that when it comes to WILDs and just lucid dreams in general, there really is no "should". In other words, there's no set-in-stone way to do things. It's different for everyone. Contrary to what many people say, swallowing will altimately not effect your WILD. At most, it will make it take slightly longer, because you will realize the presence of your physical body once more, and you'll have to re-find your dream-body--(That's a process that happens on its own. Don't worry about trying to consciously do it.)

As far as HI goes, I tell people to "observe" it, but don't concentrate on it. For me, it works to wait until the "scenery" of things start. They will eventually fade into very short little scenes, that eventually turn into entire dreams. The danger is just falling out of consciousness into non-lucid sleep. Above all else, try to stay passively conscious. But don't over think it

And as far as the "wave" you "should" feel, once again, there is no "should" in WILD. As long as you get to SP, it doesn't matter how you got there.

You don't even need to get to 'SP', regardless of whatever definition you're running by.

Originally Posted by Shift

You don't even need to get to 'SP', regardless of whatever definition you're running by.

True, and I was not implying otherwise. He's worried about the onset of SP, and I was trying to explain that if you get SP, it doesn't matter how it happens.

Originally Posted by Rainman

True, and I was not implying otherwise. He's worried about the onset of SP, and I was trying to explain that if you get SP, it doesn't matter how it happens.

He is concerned about SP while WILDing, and I am reminding him that SP is not required to WILD.

Well, I -really- appreciate all the help guys and gals. You answered all of my questions and now I'm fully ready to come back from my break!

Btw, I just bought a bottle of 50mg tablets of B6, I can't wait to start dreaming