Thread: Realize That You Are Dreaming But You Don't Become Lucid

Technically, you were lucid. If at any time you know you are dreaming, you are lucid.
Can you explain the dream more thoroughly?

Yeah, when i throw punches my arms move so slowly in the same way you explained. Yet i still remain non lucid. I have no idea why either.

I've definitely gotten the slow puches thing in dreams before, several times.

You would think that this would be the easiest sort of thing to pick up on in a dream, but I guess not = /.

Originally Posted by no-name

Technically, you were lucid. If at any time you know you are dreaming, you are lucid.
Can you explain the dream more thoroughly?

Okay, well I guess a better way to put it is to say that I could not execute any level of control over the dream, which is really the only experience that I have had with being lucid for the most part. Generally when I realize that I am dreaming I can control at least my actions, in addition to thoughts, if only for a short period of time.

As for the context of the dream, or dreams, I really don't remember much since I haven't really been too good about keeping a dream journal and rushed out of bed when I got up. (Tisk tisk, right? ) I know that I wasn't just running for the hell of it, so I'm pretty sure that I was either running after or away from someone. I'm leaning toward after. All that I know for sure is that I was frustrated that while I am in dreams while no-lucid I have difficulty running. Not much of a thorough explanation, but it's all I've got, haha.

Originally Posted by no-name

Technically, you were lucid. If at any time you know you are dreaming, you are lucid.
Can you explain the dream more thoroughly?

so that time i hoped i could wake up with the usb I was lucid dreaming? holy cow I've had a lot more LDs than i thought i did! :O

Similar to when I do loads of random dream stuff, realise im dreaming then i cant do them anymore? maybe you need to relax and believe you can do it?

here's a trick I use, if you have any kind of slowing down of movements, repeat the like from the matrix "You're faster then this, Don't think you are, know you are" over and over again. I've made punches go much faster this way.

Thats wierd, a few nights ago i had a dream, and something was happening to my dad, and i remember saying "dad, dont worry, this is only a dream!" but for some reason i didnt realize thatI was dreaming.

If you realize your dreaming, then you've become Lucid.

Taking control of yourself and your surroundings is Dream Control, which can be practiced and what not.

I've had that happen. You sort of absent mindedly mention its a dream without really acknowledging it.

I personally don't feel a dream is lucid unless you believe it is. You can say "its a dream" but it can just be another random confused thought.

I had the slow punch thing happen to me to, I wasn't lucid but I remembered a small part of a dream where I think I got pissed at someone and tried to fight him but when I tried to punch it was like I had weights strapped to my arms...

hmmmm, this seems to be an ongoing topic in dream views, which has not yet been resolved. maybe this is the point where you should make the dream more vivid.

here is somthing i have come up with that may help

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firstly lets ask this question, what is the difference in feeling between the waking world and the dream world?

well with the dream world i find that i am not so much there, i have a low level of conciousness, why?

with a regular dream we are only really concerned with the plot/story (eg: ooooo, a pink pony, i must ride it and see where it takes me). but in real life we are concerned with much more than that, (eg, how warm our feet are, the sounds of aero planes passing overhead etc). so how is this relevant?

because we are concerned with so little in our dreams (or rather, one specific thing), we only require a low level of conciousness. its essentialy tunnel vision, which human beings are notorious for.
so if we were to make our dream world feel more like the real world, our level of conciousness would increase to that of the real world.
so how do we do that?


firstly, dont think of the dream world as a world in which to explore, a world which we are in. think of it as sensory input.
there is a part of the brain that is responsible for taking all our sensory input (touch, hearing, taste etc) and making a model of the world, which is sent to our conciousness.
and in dreams this part of the brain is recieving no sensory input, (because we are asleep in bed), so it uses our memory to re-create the senses, makes a model world out of them and sends this model world to our consciousness.

but remember in dreams we are only really concerened with a plot (or somthing else very specific, tunnel vision), so the model world that is re-created, only consists of things that are relevant, ie sight, and maybe sound.



so to sum up

the rear part of our brain is responsible for creating 2 different types of worlds:

-the real world, consisting of many many different senses (because they are all relevant)

-the dream world, consisting of very few senses (because very few senses are needed to simulate the plot)




so the solution?
we all talk about those moments of brief 'semi lucidity' (eg "I hate how when I'm dreaming my legs get stuck when I try to run". ).
and because of our low level of consciousness it is not clear what to do.

this is where, you need to set yourself a goal, that when you realise you are dreaming, you need, to tell your rear part of the brain (the part that makes dreams) to simulate/re-create all the other senses that you would experience in real life (eg, the feeling of carpet on your feet, the taste of an apple.

to do this simply do actions the provoke these other senses, pick up an apple and expect the taste, rub your feet on the carpet and expect the feeling of it. feel the grass, expect what you should feel

all of a sudden you will find that everything becomes more vivid, and as a result your level of consciousness will go up, and if you were just thinking about how you were dreaming, your level of lucididty will shoot up.

remember the concept of lucidity is a rapid increase in connections between different parts of the brain, a synergy, a sycronisation. communication between all these different parts of the brain.

so remember to set this goal: when i realise i am dreaming, i will provoke my other senses.

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i am not great at explaining stuff, so i apologise if it does not make much sense.

also, this is somthing i have figured out after watching documentaries, +reading lots of posts on lucid dreaming, i am no expert, so if im wrong somwhere please point it out.

good luck

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