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      There are more threads on WILDs because people have more questions about WILDs. It is a very foreign concept to a lot of people, and can be really tricky to achieve.

      There is absolutely no reason someone new to lucid dreaming should not start learning to WILD right away. Practice with DILDs does not make it easier for you to learn WILD later.

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      In my experience my longest, most vivid, and most fun ld's were WILD's.
      I have weak results with the other methods I've tried. but that's just generally speaking. I have had a few disappointing WILD's too.
      For me it's just worth the effort.

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      I don't think WILD is really that much effort, either. It is certainly less effort than other techniques. What takes more time? Identifying all your dreamsigns, practicing reality checking all day, remembering to remember to keep your awareness up all day every day? Or lying in bed for 20 minutes without moving, while thinking about the circus?

      When I have a lot on my mind, I cut out the daily awareness, and stick with a WILD once or twice a week. It takes a lot less brain power.

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      You make WILDing sound so easy, Robot Butler. And yet...

      But I'd have to agree that WILDing takes less effort than DILD once you can do it. I still think DILD is easier to learn though. I don't see how DILD prepares you for WILD, aside from keeping you motivated and getting you used to being lucid.

      I want to learn to WILD so I don't have to worry about reality checks any more, and whenever I want to have a LD I can. What can I say? I'm lazy and I like instant gratification. I think it's worth working hard now if I get to be lazy later.

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      I like to put it this way! Look around the room you are in now, notice everything and notice how clear and vivid everything looks, notice the smells and the overall sense of just being there in that room at that time, notice how REAL everything is. Now imagine that absolute perfect realism of your waking life with the ability to do anything and everything you want... All LD's are amazing but NOTHING comes close to a WILD!

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      To successfully preform a WILD it depends on the user itself.
      If you suffer from SP or you can get into SP at will, then WILD will come easy to you.

      However, if this isn't the case you should work on other methods. The harder it is for you to get into SP the harder it is to WILD.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JollyRoger View Post
      I like to put it this way! Look around the room you are in now, notice everything and notice how clear and vivid everything looks, notice the smells and the overall sense of just being there in that room at that time, notice how REAL everything is. Now imagine that absolute perfect realism of your waking life with the ability to do anything and everything you want... All LD's are amazing but NOTHING comes close to a WILD!
      DILDs are like that too. I actually used a very similar description in two of my posts to describe ALL LDs.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pojmaster17q View Post
      DILDs are like that too. I actually used a very similar description in two of my posts to describe ALL LDs.
      that is true but there is one advantage to a wild. You get to go directly into the dream without wasting a bunch of time. When I have DIlds I dont get lucid until the dream is already halfway over, and I don't have enough time to what I want. With WILDs Ive had hour long lucids where I could take my time and really enjoy it.

      Also, the transition itself is a very unique experience.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pojmaster17q View Post
      DILDs are like that too. I actually used a very similar description in two of my posts to describe ALL LDs.

      I assume that they have the potential to be none of mine or many I have talked to have had them quite as real as their WILD's, also most of us just have a different feeling in our bodies between the two because when I'm in a DILD i have this strange dreaming feeling where as in a WILD I feel exactly the same as I do right now being wide awake!

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      The only time I succeed(sp?) at WILD was worth the efforth, I had a very stable dream, about 20 mins long compared to DILDs wich are about "30 seconds-5 minutes" for me. So, I'm still trying to WILD + the DILD techniques
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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      There are more threads on WILDs because people have more questions about WILDs. It is a very foreign concept to a lot of people, and can be really tricky to achieve.
      Exactly. I mean, the concept of a DILD (realizing "oh wait, this is a dream") is pretty easy for someone new at lucid dreaming to accept, especially because it's likely that they've had DILDs before, but just didn't know what a LD was.

      The concept of entering a lucid state straight from wakefulness is quite a more interesting concept, if you think about it, so naturally, it's talked about more on the forums.

      Personally, I find that while my WILDs are somewhat more vivid than my DILDs, WILDing is such a pain in the ass that I'd rather take time out of my day to do RCs so that I can more frequently initiate DILDs. Only the very patient can put up with the shit you have to go through to attain a WILD...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      There are more threads on WILDs because people have more questions about WILDs. It is a very foreign concept to a lot of people, and can be really tricky to achieve.

      There is absolutely no reason someone new to lucid dreaming should not start learning to WILD right away. Practice with DILDs does not make it easier for you to learn WILD later.
      The only reason I don't tell a newbie to try to WILD is because if they do fail, they feel discouraged. Heck everyone feels discouraged every now and then. But I feel it happens more so with newbies because they've never had a Lucid Dreaming experience. They want it so bad that when they don't get it, it kind of hurts. Then it becomes a turnoff, and I hate it when LDs become just that; a turn-off.
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