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      Using Lucid Dreaming for Answers

      I put quite a lot of thought into this and it would be quite interesting to see what you all think. I personally am not an advanced lucid dreamer, but if any of you are you should try this out.

      As you know, your dreams consist of only things you know or imagine. You could start up a conversation with a DC as a form of information leech, to unlock lost memories or ask your mind and body things which it will respond neutrally. Theoretically, you could remember things you forget in your conscious state. At the same time, your creative mind could fill in the gaps of what you remember and know with random data and you might not know the difference. However I believe it is an interesting thing to explore, and possibly understand how your mind works and thinks. You could strike up philosophical conversations with yourself and you might get amazing ideas.

      Another thing which I was just thinking about is exploring what your mind thinks and does when you come to an obstacle with something in real life. For example, if you have seen the film 'Tomb Raider 2', you could recreate the 'Cradle of Life' and open 'Pandora's Box' yourself, and see what happens, without forcing your own outcome, and let your mind create it without influence. I am sure you could learn a lot from yourself with these activities during LDs. What do you all think?

      EDIT: I very clearly understand that if you can imagine it you can do what you want, I would have to be quite the idiot not to comprehend this. However if this is the response you have to my post you have not understood it. I am discussing the possibility of obtaining true facts from your mind whilst your body is asleep and you are at another state of consciousness.
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      well its you mind , if you can imagine it you can do anything you want

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      ultranova - You clearly did not read my post thoroughly. Please re-read it.

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      it would be interesting to see if any DCs know anything about your birth, or even before it. If you've ever read Many Lives, Many Masters, to be able to contact that in-between state to find the truth. I've been very interested in this myself. Let me know if you want to try anything specific.
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      tranquilitybytrey - its nice to see your interest in this topic. It would be quite amazing if we could explore our past in this way. The coolest thing would be to like summon a copy of ourselves in a lucid dream and just ask questions lol.

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      I also find this quite interesting. I find the concept like having many doors in our mind and some of them can only be opened in a differents state of being. As Morpheas once said " I can only show you the door you have to walk through it"
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      Quote Originally Posted by deathxel View Post
      ultranova - You clearly did not read my post thoroughly. Please re-read it.
      i did , sorry i didnt wrote my point very good
      I had many dreams that where related to reality that revealed some things about me wich i was little familiar with and i realized them after dream.Well taking that in lucid dream can be very interesting.What i meant by that what i wrote earlier is that of course you can imagine it if you really want someone who would tell things about you , im sure you can duplicate yourself but since its your own creations its more likely that you will get answers you want to hear because those too are part of your imagination.but I think that would be very interesting that you can find more about yourself ( and others ) by trying to make your dream ( in this case dc telling about you ) trigger some memories , things and events that will give you another view point of yourself and make you realize many things that you couldnt comprehend in your everyday life.
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      hmm, I've always wondered if it's possible to get more information about yourself in any lucid which is why one of my lucid goals is to do just that once I am able to have more LDs.
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      I wouldn't know about "information", but character/personality development and emotional goth- definitely.

      also forgive me if this is somewhat off topic but Buddhists believe there are:

      1. samsaric lucid/nonlucid dreams- what everyone here experiences, basically you interact with whatever your mind creates

      2.dreams of clarity- these are more advanced and harder to achieve- these stray away from everyday stuff and indeed make you more enlightened. In these you can receive higher knowledge, interact with masters, etc

      3.clear light dreams- these are beyond subject/object duality. It is just you in your mind - you are past the illusions. nothing else exists and you are at peace. a sort of mini-nirvana


      since Budhists basically invented LD-ing I think this has relevance
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      ultranova - thanks for clearing it up, very interesting input

      yuriythebest - yes its interesting, these ideas you have shown are linked closely to the other ideas shared here, nice to see this and yes it is relevant

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      Alright deathxel- Last night, in which i believe to be my first WILD, I tried to summon my sub conscience while keeping the intention on seeing myself in front of me. My result was four high pitched bell notes in my right ear, with each note, the heat in my right ear increased almost to the point of discomfort.

      Nothing appeared =(, I then turned around (in my back yard) and saw a cartoon I used to watch on the TV in my house through the window, surprisingly, an episode I had never seen before and became distracted. I awoke several seconds later in my bed, with my right ear still warm.

      Although our desired outcome did not present itself this time, I still find this interesting. Perhaps we should refine our goals and how to attain them here for better results next time.

      yuriythebest- I agree with you, there has to be more potential here than just our imagination.
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      Now, I believe that some well known geniuses have admitted that they received inspiration from lucid dreaming. I'm not 100% sure who it was or who mentioned it, but i can definitely believe that something like this is possible. It kind of makes you wonder - wouldn't it be the perfect time to think about answers? your brain doesn't have to focus attention of the senses, external stimuli or even stresses of the waking life, so why not take advantage of that? I feel that i'm figuring out more about how I think, and how my dreams work, and also what my dream world is capable of. dont you?

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      tranquilitybytrey - its unfortunate that you were unsuccesful but we have all the time we want to work on this yes we should discuss what we want to achieve and possibly by focusing on a specific thing we could slowly learn from this process of talking to your subconscious mind. perhaps you could start us off since you made an attempt already?

      desert claw - yes i believe that dreaming is an amazing phenomenon and many things are possible, some which most people are very skeptical about. I wouldnt be surprised if some breakthroughs in science or philosophy have been inspired via dreaming.

      I am about to post a thread about this but have you seen the film Waking Life? I highly recommend this to all lucid dreamers or anyone interested in dreams or philosophy. I just watched it and it was amazing.
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      I havn't had lucid dreams in the past two days. Next time I will try to materialize my sub conscience behind me instead of in front of me for (hopefully) better success. I've read that works better. Or I could try to summon my dream guide. He/She/It might have some answers for us as well. Any specific questions that we are looking for?
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      Quote Originally Posted by tranquilitybytrey View Post
      I havn't had lucid dreams in the past two days. Next time I will try to materialize my sub conscience behind me instead of in front of me for (hopefully) better success. I've read that works better. Or I could try to summon my dream guide. He/She/It might have some answers for us as well. Any specific questions that we are looking for?
      You dont have to summon yourself, asking any DC or out loud would return a response from your own sub conscience. Although it might help to summon your own self. Start with being able to summon 'it', and start with something simple. Something you might have some memories about and could ask a relative later on. For example, what did I do on my nth birthday? Its easier starting with this than something like your birth or something philosophical.

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      This is closely related to the topic.. You know how most people forget their times as an infant? Now I wonder if there is any ways to uncovering the lost memories of your days as a baby through lucid dreaming.
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      Quote Originally Posted by deepsleep View Post
      This is closely related to the topic.. You know how most people forget their times as an infant? Now I wonder if there is any ways to uncovering the lost memories of your days as a baby through lucid dreaming.
      If you remembered your memories as an infant i bet you'd go insane... I dont know why really, I just have an odd feeling about that. maybe some things aren't meant to be known?
      that makes me think, if this memory theory was correct, people who have lost large amounts of memory (amnesia?) would have disturbing dreams?

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      I'm relieved to see this, deathxel. I have yearned to do this for a long time, and I believe this could be an amazing tool to unlock things from your subconscious that you otherwise would not have even known was there.

      This is what Lucid Dreaming is about, in my opinion.

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      desert claw - i believe that some amnesia patients have experienced past memories in their dreams, although im not sure if it has been confirmed scientifically

      hisnameistyler - yes it would be an amazing tool, but the only obstacle is knowing the difference between the truth and what your mind creates randomly to fill in the gaps

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      Definitely. That's where good judgement comes into play.

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      hisnameistyler - yes it would be an amazing tool, but the only obstacle is knowing the difference between the truth and what your mind creates randomly to fill in the gaps
      agreed..
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      Quote Originally Posted by deathxel View Post
      As you know, your dreams consist of only things you know or imagine. You could start up a conversation with a DC as a form of information leech, to unlock lost memories or ask your mind and body things which it will respond neutrally. Theoretically, you could remember things you forget in your conscious state. At the same time, your creative mind could fill in the gaps of what you remember and know with random data and you might not know the difference. However I believe it is an interesting thing to explore, and possibly understand how your mind works and thinks. You could strike up philosophical conversations with yourself and you might get amazing ideas.
      Check this link outhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZWv2x_kQjQ

      It's entitled Lucidly Conversing with Dream Figures, with Robert Waggoner

      His book covers a lot of stuff you mention here, especially about what's behind the dream itself and hidden information.
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      Personally, I would be interested in experimenting with it, but I would definitely take it with a grain of salt. I think this sort of thing is better used for ideas than answers. If you start taking things from these dreams and trying to read into them, I can forsee someone finding themselves in a metaphysical morass. I would much rather try and come up with ideas for a drawing, a character in a book, or a vacation spot I might like to visit, and review them during my waking hours.

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      Still not sucessful with this current goal, but check this out for me.

      http://dreamviews.com/community/show...08#post1094008
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elkfazer View Post
      Check this link outhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZWv2x_kQjQ

      It's entitled Lucidly Conversing with Dream Figures, with Robert Waggoner

      His book covers a lot of stuff you mention here, especially about what's behind the dream itself and hidden information.
      I watched it, and it was pretty interesting. I like what he mentioned about dream figures, how the more you focus on them, the more permanent they become. awesome

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