Thread: I keep on having fake lucids :(

how can you be lucid and not have lucidity? I think theres a really old thread on here (got to it through google WAY before I decided to join) about "fake lucids" where you are dreaming about being lucid, and the final result is that this was a form of lucidity.

Originally Posted by lilacalil

IDK, in all of them I know I'm dreaming and have sometimes done things to control my dreams, such as turn back time to save a DC, fly through a roof and in my latest, kill somebody because they wouldn't do what I asked IDK if I count these as lucid as none of these dreams have my personality in them, ESPECIALLY the last.

As others have stated, if you knew you were dreaming, then you were Lucid. That is the core definition of Lucid Dreaming: to know you are dreaming; to be aware of the dream state. I apply this question to your first post; Did you KNOW you were dreaming? From what I see, you only dreamed that you were Lucid, and you didn't truly know. Hence, it was not an LD. No layers, no False Lucidty. You simply weren't Lucid.

Originally Posted by Xedan

how can you be lucid and not have lucidity?

This is what I asked myself too, because being Lucid without Lucidity does not make sense in the slightest.

From what I have seen and from what I gather from this thread, it's my opinion that the Layer concept seems to, and should only, apply when you really ARE aware that you're dreaming. That is only my assumption as I haven't watched the YouTube video being brought up by Xedan. It would be much appreciated if you could post a link to it.

Originally Posted by Xedan

I think theres a really old thread on here (got to it through google WAY before I decided to join) about "fake lucids" where you are dreaming about being lucid, and the final result is that this was a form of lucidity.

Xedan, I PRAY you're not talking about the thread I think you're talking about, because in that thread I'm pretty sure the majority of us all agreed that using the term "False Lucids" would only confuse new members that need to know how to classify their dreams. The member who posted it was...I think Mario-something.

no, not that one. he wasn't a member then.

layer 0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywwlib29LgU
from there just use the playlist to get to the rest (there are 5)

No, not Mario92. Another Mario. Mario64 or something like that.

Thanks for the link.

Having fake ones is a start i guess.

hmm... Who knows (well someone might, but I don't). maybe it was that thread. And no problem. This guy got me at least the first half of my lucids.