Best Way To Find When your REM cycle starts and ends

**nightronics** · 06-15-2010 11:41 PM

Does anyone know of a good tactic i can use so it is easier to WILD? (Other than video taping my eyes lol)
Also i dont know if this is the answer, but i sometimes i wake up at 1:30 in the morning for no reason, is that a sign my REM is over?

**zebrah** · 06-16-2010 12:14 AM

Ok sleep has two primary groups REM (R) and NON-REM (NR). NR sleep is when most of your deep sleep is done. This period can have dreams but not typicly. R sleep occurs after going through NR sleep for a while. The typical time for rem to start is after 5-6 hours of sleep. Setting an alarm then will help. It also is very helpful to have an organized sleep schedual. If you set the alarm for 5 bourse of sleep and it wakes you up durring s dream you know your in Rem sleep.

**Robot_Butler** · 06-16-2010 12:19 AM

If you are good at waking yourself up, you can try without an alarm. Set the goal of waking up after every dream to write it down. Jot down the times for all your dreams every night, and you should start to see a pattern. For example, I normally have extremely vivid dreams from 2:00 to 2:30, after going to bed at 11:00.

**nightronics** · 06-16-2010 12:36 AM

Thanks for the responses.
Zebrah, i will set my alarm to 5 hours after i fall asleep (because i cant wake myself up)
Robot_Butler, i also have noticed a pattern, around 1:30 to 2:00, which is 5 hours after i fall asleep.
(yes i go to sleep at 9, im a morning person)
Thanks!

**zebrah** · 06-16-2010 12:47 AM

Glad I could help

**cybereality** · 06-16-2010 01:28 AM

You could look into getting a Zeo. That should be able to chart your REM states. Also the REM-Dreamer has a DreamAlarm feature that wakes you up when you go into REM. That could work too.

**SupaCoopa** · 06-16-2010 01:35 AM

Hmm... how would that work? By sensing when your eyes start moving back and forth and start and alarm when that happens?

**cybereality** · 06-16-2010 01:45 AM

Yes, the REM-Dreamer has a sensor that can read rapid eye movements so it knows when you are dreaming. As a feature to help train yourself it has an alarm that can go off 3 minutes after you start dreaming. So you can wake up and know when you had started dreaming and also see if you incorporated the light-triggers into your dream.

**SupaCoopa** · 06-16-2010 01:47 AM

You should put a link of where to buy this wonderfull device. Would be awsome.

**cybereality** · 06-16-2010 01:50 AM

http://remdreamer.com/

I am also going to write a full review, I've only had the device for less than a week.

Although if you want to see exactly how much time you spend in REM maybe the Zeo is a better option:
http://www.myzeo.com/