Thread: WILD - Wake Initiated Lucid Dream

My problem with WILD is I always end up keeping myself awake, or letting myself fall asleep. When counting, I can keep going for hours... If I try to back off focusing a bit I fall asleep. What are some ways around this?

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

My problem with WILD is I always end up keeping myself awake, or letting myself fall asleep. When counting, I can keep going for hours... If I try to back off focusing a bit I fall asleep. What are some ways around this?

This sounds like a minor, easily fixable issue. When you wake up for WBTB, stay up only long enough, until you can think clearly. Do a few math problems in your head. Don't wake yourself up too much, or your body will think you are up for a day and will switch to wake up mode.

If counting keeps you up, try a different mantra. Something that doesn't require that much concentration to get it right. Simple sentence like "I'm dreaming" will do the trick. Don't worry if you mess up your mantra, or if you lose your count.

The trick is to fall asleep at the same time, when dream becomes available for you. If you falling asleep too fast, make the mantra more challenging. If you stay too aware for too long, drop the mantra and pick it up again when you get closer to falling asleep.

It will just take a few more tries to get more familiar with the whole balancing game. Good luck.

Originally Posted by gab

This sounds like a minor, easily fixable issue. When you wake up for WBTB, stay up only long enough, until you can think clearly. Do a few math problems in your head. Don't wake yourself up too much, or your body will think you are up for a day and will switch to wake up mode.

If counting keeps you up, try a different mantra. Something that doesn't require that much concentration to get it right. Simple sentence like "I'm dreaming" will do the trick. Don't worry if you mess up your mantra, or if you lose your count.

The trick is to fall asleep at the same time, when dream becomes available for you. If you falling asleep too fast, make the mantra more challenging. If you stay too aware for too long, drop the mantra and pick it up again when you get closer to falling asleep.

It will just take a few more tries to get more familiar with the whole balancing game. Good luck.

Thank you for the advice. I will definitely be trying this out. I will most likely post updates in a few days after some attempts. It's interesting seeing the people in this thread say that WILD isn't hard.. The general thought since I joined this site was that everyone said WILD was like crazy hard to do.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

It's interesting seeing the people in this thread say that WILD isn't hard.. The general thought since I joined this site was that everyone said WILD was like crazy hard to do.

That's more a fun thing to say -- or a misunderstanding of WILD from the get-go -- than it is an utterance of truth. Yes, WILD can be hard, especially if attempted without proper mental prep. But so can DILD and MILD.

These "techniques" are simply tools to provide an assist to lucidity. Lucidity itself comes from you, and not from the techniques; remember that, and WILD suddenly gets a lot easier, I think...forget it, and WILD is impossible.