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      Hello, sorry if I'm being a bit of a newbie here. But, I tried doing this and I sort of felt my body go to sleep (It was a quick process) but I'm too scared to open my eyes because someone mentioned hallucinating monsters and stuff. In order to see if you are dreaming, do you have to open your eyes? Or do you just enter a dream without having to physically open them.

      Also, do you usually have to get out of bed in your dream?

      Also, I could no longer hear the binaural beats that I had on, I was asleep?

      And again, also, my eyes were going completely mental!
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      Quote Originally Posted by FlyRazor View Post
      Hello, sorry if I'm being a bit of a newbie here. But, I tried doing this and I sort of felt my body go to sleep (It was a quick process) but I'm too scared to open my eyes because someone mentioned hallucinating monsters and stuff. In order to see if you are dreaming, do you have to open your eyes? Or do you just enter a dream without having to physically open them.

      Also, do you usually have to get out of bed in your dream?

      Also, I could no longer hear the binaural beats that I had on, I was asleep?

      And again, also, my eyes were going completely mental!

      I think it is easy to get the wrong idea. If you let your body fall asleep and you are still somewhat aware you have no need to do anything with your eyes or body. Just settle in and relax more and more. If you are in a deep enough state you will likely see something eventually. It may be H.I. which is just imagery of any kind that is short of truly dream like (colors, mist swirling and such). It may be 'dreamlets' which are detailed flashes of visual stuff that do not hold together when observed closely (seeing a short scene that fades if you pay attention), or an actual truly dream like experience.

      I recommend never opening your eyes at all. It is too risky and unnecessary. I either wait until truly dream like images happen (suddenly in a new setting) or I become very unsure if I am now dreaming about being in my bed. I then will not move in any way that is natural. I may attempt to move my hand just by having it float up a few inches above the bed. If I feel any resistance from gravity I stop before any real muscles have contracted.

      Not every one will agree, but I say you must be experienced before you attempt to exit your body, and then it should be with methods that can not be real. The rope climbing thing is a good one. It is used in some WILD styles and does not need to lead to OBE (which many say is just a form of lucid dream). However, float your hands up rather than reach for the rope (I like a rope ladder myself). If you reach you may actually move your arms. If your arms float up and you pretend to be climbing you sometimes find you actually have started to dream of climbing and you can start your LD.
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      You both have been awfully helpful!

      Last night, I didn't want to have a lucid dream or that astral projection thing because I was worried about it slightly.
      Please can you tell me if it's true, when you open your eyes during Rem sleep you see things that aren't really there?

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      Quote Originally Posted by FlyRazor View Post
      You both have been awfully helpful!

      Last night, I didn't want to have a lucid dream or that astral projection thing because I was worried about it slightly.
      Please can you tell me if it's true, when you open your eyes during Rem sleep you see things that aren't really there?
      If you mean open your dream eyes, then yes, it is called a dream. Isn't that the sort of thing you want? That is, to see something that is not really there? If you mean open your real eyes, I think you are confused. Like I said, why would you open your eyes at all. Dream images do not require you to think about your eyes at all. Just wait for images, do not open anything real or otherwise. You are not going to open your real eyes with out waking up, unless you have already had issues with draeming with your eyes open. There may be a moment of dream images on top of real ones as you wake, but so what.
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