Thread: Cleansing out/Warding off Bad Spirits?

Either way, that leaves no room for anyone to say that this person is "wrong and lying, and is bullshit". Just because YOU havent experienced things like this doesnt mean they dont exist, thats just being ignorant. This subject is VERY widespred and demonic possession whether you believe it or not, is absolutely real. Try speaking to high priests or organizations that specifically deal with things like this. There are people who dedicate there entire lives to this subject. Not so much in America than in other countries however, like Italy for instance, the priests of the vatican.

I am not going to try and force a belief into anyone, so really it doesnt matter im just saying. Dont knock someones beliefs, just because you cant believe it. Its like saying that extraterrestrials dont exist, when there is NO WAY POSSIBLE that we are the only intelligent beings in the universe, out of all these billions of planets and solar systems, there just is no way to deny it.

Now, let me be clear that i dont know jack shit about demonology and DREAMS so who knows, all i am saying is be mature and keep an open mind. Add things up, be smart, dont be a retard.

Originally Posted by SKA

I'm cool with you. Obviously I meant Lucid4sho and Corel.
They are negative thought patterns and emotions. I'm not sure wether they are actual intelligent beings allthough sometimes it certainly seemed so.

I'm just sick discussing this in the open where too many annoying people redicule and ruin this topic, sidetracking it in a nonsensical provocation.

someone call the wambulance. (grade A nonsensical provocation)

i never said you were full of it for claiming to be possessed by many different spirits , so why you gotta be a negative nancy and say that dragons are bogus.

btw, if you believe you are being possessed and losing control of your body don't you think you should talk to a professional about that before you hurt yourself or someone.

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

someone call the wambulance. (grade A nonsensical provocation)


btw, if you believe you are being possessed and losing control of your body don't you think you should talk to a professional about that before you hurt yourself or someone.

I assume your speaking of seeing doctor, but that would not help. that would only help if you were mentally unstable and i don't think Ska is mentally unstable. Being possessed and mental illness are two completely different things. Sure its easy for a person to diagnose a possessed person as just having mental health issues, but that's because its easy and the best thing to explain it rather than saying they are possessed and risk there career over the claim because of how narrow minded people are in today's society.

Sorry if my posts arent making much sense i am just finding it rather annoying that some of you are flaming. Im guessing you hear one thing and just immediately say YES THAT MUST BE TRUE EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG JUST I AM RIGHT YOUR WRONG, with that kind of mentality, similar to the way young children view there own opinions.

you guys need to leave SKA alone. hes one of the greatest contributers on this site.

I just watched this video and realised some things. I apologize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

I just watched this video and realised some things. I apologize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

Excellent. Great video!!

Originally Posted by JamesLD

you guys need to leave SKA alone. hes one of the greatest contributers on this site.

He attacked us , pay attention.

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

i am just finding it rather annoying that some of you are flaming. Im guessing you hear one thing and just immediately say YES THAT MUST BE TRUE EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG JUST I AM RIGHT YOUR WRONG, with that kind of mentality, similar to the way young children view there own opinions.

exactly my point. thats why I had to put him in his place for acting like he decides what is real and what is not.

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

I assume your speaking of seeing doctor, but that would not help. that would only help if you were mentally unstable and i don't think Ska is mentally unstable. Being possessed and mental illness are two completely different things. Sure its easy for a person to diagnose a possessed person as just having mental health issues, but that's because its easy and the best thing to explain it rather than saying they are possessed and risk there career over the claim because of how narrow minded people are in today's society.

The issue is not whether or not the possessions are genuine. If someone is losing control and acting possessed by evil spirits, they need to be committed until the problem is resolved. It could truly be evil spirits, but thats not going to matter to the judge when the person is on trial for hacking up and eating someone.

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

The issue is not whether or not the possessions are genuine. If someone is losing control and acting possessed by evil spirits, they need to be committed until the problem is resolved. It could truly be evil spirits, but thats not going to matter to the judge when the person is on trial for hacking up and eating someone.

Your ignorance is great.
Sure let's lock up all people who speak of demonic possession. Let's track down homosexuals and scapegoat and hunt down people of certain ethnicities. And let's preamptively kill disabled people.

Perhaps the REAL danger lies in shortsighted people like you that wish to lock up people they don't understand( bet that would be a Heck of a lot of people.) You ain't gunna lock me up. And neither are you gunna bounce me off of this forum. I'm here to stay and I'm not gunna be shut up by a Damn fool like you.

You are to respect my views and beliefs, no matter how much different views you yourself have.

And what was that about hacking someone up? How did that fly into your head? Oh wait I, nor anyone else in this discussion, didn't say ANYTHING at all about hacking people up or any such thing. YOU totally dreamt that up.
YOU are the delirious one here my friend.

DV would be a much better place without people like you: If you wish to redicule this Topic then YOU are doing wrong. This is the Beyond Dreaming Forum made for topics like these.
So YOU are out of line here. You are in the wrong place. Not me buddy.


I'll be glad to continue this discussion seriously and intelligently; meaning without fools like you in it.

Originally Posted by SKA

And what was that about hacking someone up? How did that fly into your head? Oh wait I, nor anyone else in this discussion, didn't say ANYTHING at all about hacking people up or any such thing. YOU totally dreamt that up..

Convenient you post this right after deleting all your previous posts. You said being possessed is like becoming an observer, the evil spirit takes complete control over your body, then you claimed this happens to you. I feel this puts you at risk to do something crazy during an episode, murder was an example. This is my opinion, if you disagree then explain why you feel you have the situation under control and are not at risk to do anything stupid during your possession episodes, don't just insult me because I am looking out for your safety.

What you can give these spirits control over your body? How do you do that? And what do they do with your body? Ever heard of automatic writing? You think it's related? Gives a whole new meaning to the word ghostwriter

Look kids, (and yes I say that because you all are acting as children would right now), - keep it clean and steer clear of the insults, stay ON-TOPIC (you know.. the topic pertaining to the OP's message) or I will start issuing infractions and maybe some ban time if that doesn't sink in first.

Continue ~

Hopefully I don't add more fuel to the flames that are about to end but I would like to add more about my viewpoint.

Simply it doesn't matter which viewpoint you subscribe too. That you believe in spirits or not. The matter or importance is to realize if you feel down or feel influenced in a negative way. Be it external influence from a evil spirit or other actual person that tries to subterfuge you, you being just deluded by your own thoughts in a bad down spiral, or you eaten something awful making you feel sick.

It can be all of them working together or just one or none of the above but something else. Trying to argue which or what or why does not matter in the end. You just need to realize the bad and work your way out from it. If you feel bad about something, try to realize exactly what it is you feel bad about and then also think if it's reasonable to be negative about it or is is just pointless completely to feel bad at all and cheer up.
To try and point the blame all on negative spirits or entities and constructs that try all to make you feel bad is kidding yourself. Also to just trash someone when they can't understand their view by "throw them in the padded cell and drug them up". That's ridiculous!
Evil spirits or not it's your body, your life, your responsibility, your actual soul physical manifestation. Your sovereign mind! YOU decide everything in the end! You can deny all evil influence! You can work around depression by trying to understand why you feel like it. Often it's ridiculous things to feel bad about! Don't be tricked to fall down a spiral of doom and gloom.

"Evil!" tricks you to believe that you have no power, no control when it's so far from the truth as is can be. You can only dis-empower yourself. The "Evil" tricks you to do things unto yourself until you might be so low that you give away your own control to something else out of YOUR OWN FREE WILL! But it has only power so long you believe it! The moment you realize that you always stand in full control and always had full control they loose their influence instantly if you deny them! You are what you are. They can't change you, only by forgetting who you are can you ACT something else.

We lack so much understanding here on earth that's it's hilarious in a sense how much we can't see in front of our very own eyes.
And all the memories "forgotten" but always there if you search for them.

Lastly about the "open minded" youtube video up there. It's a great video to watch and has good advice but it's incomplete, sees it only from the "scientist" view and defends it by not mentioning fault but on the "other" side. And as such looks as a "attack" and is used like a attack! As seen above. I see it that way about people posting that video around!

I didnt mean it that way when i posted it.

All I can say is that I highly discourage any exorcisms and/or deliverance to banish spirits or energy or whatever.

Delieverance ministry is basically just a big blame the victim game of guilt, abuse, and placebo effect.

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

I didnt mean it that way when i posted it.

I'm confident you didn't. You should not take my view all to harshly, kinda hard to define the right "level" on how I meant it.
Just something I want to point out about it.

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

I didnt mean it that way when i posted it.

That's cool. I just got a little frustrated to see my topic being rediculed and sidetracked. We're back on track now.

What I mean with "bad spirits" are negative energies, negative, destructive states of awareness(or lack of awareness)

Spiritual energies that drive people's destructive thinking patterns and behaviour. And I wanted to know more of how they got in and how you can change these negative patterns.

I'm not talking about "a bad day". I'm talking about persistant long lasting negative, destructive energies.

Aura fortification should be #1 on the list. If you have a very strong, healthy, fortified aura...these negative energies won't be able to touch you.

Check out a book: Psychic Self Defense and Well Being

How do you fortificate your aura? Meditation? On what? I don't have money to buy a book

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

How do you fortificate your aura? Meditation? On what? I don't have money to buy a book

There was one Meditation in particular called the Tower of Light that I remember. A quick google search brought me to this...

Today martial artists practice a wide array of physical exercises for self-protection against physical attack. Some may even refine their mental processes and perceptions through standard forms of meditation or practice chi kung exercises to develop the chi energies. But why stop there? There are also exercises for developing the chakras and the aura and protecting yourself from psychic attack. Since these concepts are discussed at length in the literature, we won't explain them here. However, suffice it to say that the aura is the electromagnetic energy force field that surrounds each one of us. (The theory is actually more complex than this but this is better left for advanced study.)

Aura parameters such as colors, size, shape, evenness, and uniformity change dynamically over time in response to the total environment. It is affected by such factors as daily stress, psychological bombardment, other people's intentions and desires toward us, jealousy, induced fear, threats, hatred, and noise which can cause the aura to shrink or create wear and tear on the aura. There are exercises that help develop the ability to "see" auras but these will not be covered here.

Your energy can be drained in any of a number of ways. Sometimes other people can drain your energy leaving you tired. This could happen unintentionally by certain individuals. You may have had the experience of interacting with certain people who left you with that drained feeling. There are many exercises for developing energy, retaining energy, refining energy, and transmuting energy from lower to higher levels. Our concern here is protecting our energy by strengthening the auric field.

Our immune system offers internal physical protection from disease but our aura is our first line of defense. Obviously, the best defense is to avoid being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people. In order to develop such perfect timing, we need to be in harmony with the rhythms of nature (or to be one with the [frequencies and cycles of the energy] universe). You do not have to be a martial artist to do the exercise below. It does not matter what art you practice or what beliefs you subscribe to. It can be performed alone or as a supplement to your daily training regimen.

You may even come under direct psychic attack by occult forces and regular practice of the exercise given here will act as a preventive measure. If you're already under psychic attack, you may have to consult someone knowledgeable in these areas for advice.

Those who practice the given exercise report increased self-confidence, health, energy, respect, and courage. It is known to sharply reduce nightmares during sleep. The resulting strong aura has even protected practitioners from physical violence and accidents. Practice may even lead to spiritual advancement. The exercise is not intended to make you a superhuman wizard with magical powers so you should not come away with such an expectation. We are merely developing existing abilities, much the same as any martial art. No special equipment is required.

This is one of those closely guarded secrets some masters have reserved for their favorite pupils but it is being publicized here because we believe it benefits everyone. The exercise is a form of passive psychic self-defense and involves active meditation using visualization. It is easy to do and should be done two or three times a day, at least in the early morning and before going to bed at night. The exercise takes only a few minutes as a minimum but can be done as long as desired. The exercise is quite safe and can be done as many times during the day as desired. With practice, the visualization is more easily performed and can be called upon in an emergency when needed. Each step of this exercise serves an important function and should not be omitted.

The Tower of Light Exercise.
Protection against psychic attack
1. Stand erect, feet shoulder-width, arms at your sides, breathing evenly and deeply.
2. Progressively relax your entire body starting from the top of your head working slowly down to the bottoms of your feet.
3. Mentally visualize that you are surrounded by a long ellipsoid of intense, bright blue light that extends 9 inches outwardly from every point on the surface of your body.
4. Continue to maintain this image and visualize a globe of brilliant white light above (but not touching) your head. The globe is inside of your bright blue aura.
5. Concentrate on this bright white globe so that it becomes brighter, glowing white like burning magnesium.
6. Keep both images of the bright blue aura and the brilliant white globe and mentally aspire to the highest standards of morality, good, and love that you can.
7. Next, feel the white globe showering you with glittering white light filled with silver sparkles. This white light should permeate your entire being, coursing vibrantly through you.
8. The outer shell of your aura should be an intense bright blue filled with the vibrant, sparkling white light. Concentrate on this complete image as long as you can, fully believing in its reality. Feel your outer auric shell as a hard, sharply defined blue as you feel blissful and alert.
9. As you close, let the image fade slowly while believing that it is not fading from reality.

There were many many techniques for aura fortification in the book, but that is the main one I can remember. The book also suggests that you become a vegetarian (which I wasn't too thrilled about), and says that you should never give out personal information like your full name, birthdate, etc. The book was slightly paranoid in my view almost suggesting that you are being constantly attacked by negative energies and that people will try to use psychic attacks on you on a regular basis or something...but had some great methods at the same time.

Why can't you just get a grip of your mind and drive them out by will? You don't need a ritual, just stop putting up with their bullshit. If bad spirits are real then we know that they are just poor and decrepid beings that are leeching off not unlike trolls on the internet.

Originally Posted by SKA

actually these drugs fill me up with that white light and love. They are spiritual medicine.

HA HA HA! That's my thoughts exactly!

Cannabis helped me get over my paranoia, and if one of the keys to keeping away dark spirits is not to be scared then all this shit's for the win.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

There was one Meditation in particular called the Tower of Light that I remember. A quick google search brought me to this...



There were many many techniques for aura fortification in the book, but that is the main one I can remember. The book also suggests that you become a vegetarian (which I wasn't too thrilled about), and says that you should never give out personal information like your full name, birthdate, etc. The book was slightly paranoid in my view almost suggesting that you are being constantly attacked by negative energies and that people will try to use psychic attacks on you on a regular basis or something...but had some great methods at the same time.

Cool thanks for the looking that up for me thats very sweet of you Really interesting article, if negative energies are stuff like jealousy and people looking down on you, then I'm not surprised this book suggests we are constantly attacked by negative energies. Everyone looks down on someone, everyone is jealous of someone or something. I guess this is what Wilhelm Reich called "the emotional plague". Who on here is not jealous of Bill Gates and his money, or of this or that? If everyone is jealous of something, does this mean, that everyone is infected with the emotional plague, that everyone is possessed by demons?

Originally Posted by Idolfan

Why can't you just get a grip of your mind and drive them out by will? You don't need a ritual, just stop putting up with their bullshit. If bad spirits are real then we know that they are just poor and decrepid beings that are leeching off not unlike trolls on the internet.

Lol.. so true.. weather they are real or not, it indeed just comes down to getting a grip of your own mind. These rituals dont make much sense to me either. Except for meditation, but thats not really a ritual

Originally Posted by SKA

That's cool. I just got a little frustrated to see my topic being rediculed and sidetracked. We're back on track now.

What I mean with "bad spirits" are negative energies, negative, destructive states of awareness(or lack of awareness)

Spiritual energies that drive people's destructive thinking patterns and behaviour. And I wanted to know more of how they got in and how you can change these negative patterns.

I'm not talking about "a bad day". I'm talking about persistant long lasting negative, destructive energies.

If the problem with negativity and destructiveness is that severe, then really the best advice anyone can give you is to consult a good psychiatrist.

The internet shouldn't be your main source of help on serious health problems.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

If the problem with negativity and destructiveness is that severe, then really the best advice anyone can give you is to consult a good psychiatrist.

The internet shouldn't be your main source of help on serious health problems.

I have consulted psychiatrists before. My experience with them that they have a very limited, unrealistic view of the human mind. Every single one I spoke. And none of them seemed to really give a damn either.

So since then I developped an allergy to Psychiatrists.

Originally Posted by SKA

I have consulted psychiatrists before. My experience with them that they have a very limited, unrealistic view of the human mind. Every single one I spoke. And none of them seemed to really give a damn either.

So since then I developped an allergy to Psychiatrists.

its really quite sad, back in the olden times when somebody had some sort of experience with a spirit or something theyd call it "mystical" or a "Miracle". now days if something like that happens, the world views you as a crazy person and should seek medical help.