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      The fact that it has turned into such a debate alone indicates to me that there must be something there, maybe more to the story.

      What would you say to a scientific paper with statistical analysis saying there may be a basis for group meditation lowering crime??

      Here's the abstract:

      http://www.springerlink.com/content/...ext.pdf?page=1

      And the full document, well it was gona cost me 34 dollars to download it, but I found a snippet of it on the ISTPP: Crime Prevention web site:

      http://istpp.org/crime_prevention/

      That means if instead of paying for cops the government could just pay for monks and mystics to get together and throw hippie parties in central park instead???....WELL SIGN ME UP!!

      Your mind most definitely helps to shape the universe around you. It works whether you believe it or not, its just that those who believe learn to live and work with it- because you don't control it. Its the way, you either go with the flow and direct yourself in its course, or you get tumbled around.

      go with the flizzle dizzle

      Hey, i heard there was a meditation during lucid dreaming class being offered this semester at DVA!!

      What no way, get outa here!!

      Yea man, its FREE!! It increases your dream recall and clarity!!

      What thats totally Bodatious brah!!

      Yea, you should check it out

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      Sorry I didn't read the whole thread, however, I do believe in this. In my religion, our prophet(pbuh) has warned us of this exact thing. I have seen people actually get sick because of this and there are ways to determine if one has been "stared at" but I won't get into that.
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      The evil eye!

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      I wonder if you read the whole article? It explains more about magnetism and detecting actual force fields than it does proving an "energy field." You cannot say that none of it is true because you think it is pseudoscience, so provide some substance on why.
      The conclusions are not true. I can write 50 pages correctly explaining quantum physics and in the end say "thus, God is real". My 50 pages would be untrue. You know.
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      OK, Let's take baby steps. so the thing measures more waves from when the eyes are open. Is this true or not?
      If so, then what is the explanation?

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      Hmm, I don't know about you, but I've never heard that eyes produce electromagnetic waves.
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      Saying quantum physics explains cognitive processes is just like saying geology explains jurisprudence.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      The conclusions are not true. I can write 50 pages correctly explaining quantum physics and in the end say "thus, God is real". My 50 pages would be untrue. You know.
      You didn't answer my question. Why is it untrue? Also, did you read the article?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      Hmm, I don't know about you, but I've never heard that eyes produce electromagnetic waves.
      You have heard that they can measure waves from the eyes and brain, and that the waves from the eyes when they are open are stronger, if you watched the video and/or read the article.

      Whether or not you believe it is a different matter, and I am interested in hearing why you don't believe it. What is untrue? Why are the conclusions wrong? Educate me. Take baby steps, in order that I may understand.

      Just asserting your opinion that it isn't true doesn't convince me, anymore than a Bible or a Qu'ran would.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Of course, make wild new hypotheses. That's crucial to science.

      But what science is really about is testing your hypothesis. This person has done no research, discovered nothing new because he hasn't bothered to look, and has the lunacy to 'guarantee that the experiment would give a positive result', when everything he has said runs contrary to established (experimentally verified) theories of the world, and indeed is contradicted by the people who have actually done experiments on this.

      Clearly in these circumstances there is all the reason to dismiss it completely, as you would dismiss an email from a wealthy Nigerian.
      As far as I can tell after watching it twice, he's done the experiment already. He's saying that if you did the experiment from 30 feet away, he guarantees you'd get positive results.

      Anyways, I thought it was pretty cool. Doesn't seem to be much of a stretch, yet there's a lot of debate going on.
      I'm going to start staring at people in public way more now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut View Post
      You have heard that they can measure waves from the eyes and brain, and that the waves from the eyes when they are open are stronger, if you watched the video and/or read the article.

      Whether or not you believe it is a different matter, and I am interested in hearing why you don't believe it. What is untrue? Why are the conclusions wrong? Educate me. Take baby steps, in order that I may understand.

      Just asserting your opinion that it isn't true doesn't convince me, anymore than a Bible or a Qu'ran would.
      Well oh well, the "eyes" use electrical current to transmit information to the brain. It's actually a neuron that does this, but I get your point.

      And of course, with more activation of the eyes, there will be more activation of the neurons, and thus the electrical current observed will be stronger. This doesn't change bubbles about the "sense of being stared at".
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      So, you agree that there IS electromagnetic waves being generated by the eyes. Do you disagree that they are projected in the direction that the eye-sockets are facing? Do you disagree that someone else can subconsciously receive the waves?

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      ok fine, but I wonder why when you try to think and focus on someone to do something it never happens thats why western science doesn't care for this. Whatever this phenomena is I know it can be very strange but a number on this thing won't matter, u won't figure this out ever but good luck.

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      Quote Originally Posted by low3rpow3r View Post
      ok fine, but I wonder why when you try to think and focus on someone to do something it never happens thats why western science doesn't care for this. Whatever this phenomena is I know it can be very strange but a number on this thing won't matter, u won't figure this out ever but good luck.
      What does emitting electromagnetic waves have to do with controlling another person's mind? The whole premise is merely that the eyes emit a wave that may be detected by another individual. The same way that standing next to an electrical device giving off high EMFs will cause a person to feel uncomfortable or disoriented. It interferes with your own electrical circuitry causing a perceptible change...but it's not like...hacking into someone's brain. You aren't going to be able to control what another person does (in the sense you are suggesting) just by thinking about it. The issue of mind control is another matter entirely.

      Of course they'll figure it out eventually, one way or another.

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