Thread: The Sense of being Stared at

While officially, this topic no longer belongs in the paranormal section, archetypically the majority of it's associations belong in the "hogwash" category, so I'll stick it in here.

Apparently, the eyes do emit a scientifically measurably "beam". No need to get that laser eye surgery so you can shoot lasers out of your eyes anymore.

Sorry, the link to the original article is broken, but here is the scientist talking about his discovery.



Just one example of the paranormal making the jump to mainstream science. All that was missing was a way to adequately explain it.

Haha. Yeah right.

Thank you for that thought provoking contribution.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Thank you for that thought provoking contribution.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

With that kind of attitude, science would not progress at all.

You're right about that. I'm not saying he should be burned at the stake for suggesting something wild, like saying the world is round when we all know it's flat, but since I really can't imagine what ground-breaking contribution this could have to science even if there were anything to it, which I highly doubt. I think he should keep working at it till he passes the test of the sceptics instead of what he talked about in the video. I could think of many potential inconsistencies, like whether or not the surface matters, that the concentration of optical nerves in the eye may not be causing any electromagnetic disturbance or whatever, but that the skull itself, or even the brain, could be acting as a sort of filter for background radiation? Could there even be some level of reflection going on? I simply see no proof or even suggestion that there may be anything to this idea in what the man says. Personally I don't like when people try to stem scientific "theories" in the paranormal or whatnot and I seriously doubt that the feeling of being watched has anything to do with this. I really think this kind of stuff is a waste of brainpower when you think of all the things they could be investigating instead. That's why I think it's not even worth discussing it's validity since it's a waste of time until somebody can prove otherwise.

Feel free to bash me now.

Maybe you'd enjoy Rupert Sheldrake.. ?

He held this talk at google after his (to that date) last publication 'The
sense of being stared at', discussing the research he does on humans
and animals, as well as Q&A. (I think this is called 'the extended mind')

Appears pretty relevant



Then of course, there's Dean Radin and tons of stuff on remote viewing.

On a side note, Radin is actually sitting in the front row during the lecture.

The lectures from Thomas Campbell on possible implications of modern
physics in regard to the bigger picture discussed in this thread and more
precisely this post also include these phenomena and are presented with
a 'proper' structural set of laws. The lecture itself is here.

Fascinating! Thanks for sharing.

Nonsense. From the very start this man was talking nonsense. There is no such thing as an 'energy field', it is literally meaningless. Nor can energy 'come out of your eye'. There is no mechanism for an 'electromagnetic beam' to come out of your eyes. There has been no observation of such an event. There's certainly no evidence that such a 'beam' could be directed by your pupil. There's no evidence that brain waves carry information, and no evidence that out brain can detect them. We can't even detect strong electromagnetic waves. That's why we build radios.

The frightening thing is that this man doesn't even pretend to have any evidence for his (meaningless, nonsense, contradictory to scientific knowledge...) guesses, so it isn't science, so why should you believe him? Why do you believe this man? Wishful thinking? What else could it be?

It would in fact be very easy to scientifically find out if one can sense a stare; just put somebody in a room blindfolded, have somebody randomly stare or not stare at this person, and then ask the person to guess if they are being stared at, and see if their guesses are better than chance.

A quick Google would have shown you that such experiments have in fact been done and they've given negative results; source:

http://www.jstor.org/pss/1413454

So not only is there an absence of any evidence of this phenomenon but there is evidence for the absence of this phenomenon.

Case closed.

Edit: I let the video play as I posted, I was quite literally amazed at the point when, halfway through the video, when the guy has detailed all of the possible experiments you could do but he hasn't bothered to do yet, he says, "I guarantee you would have a positive result".

Does that not frighten you? This man has no idea what science is, and frankly I find it frightening that anybody has given any credence to this whatsoever? This isn't just ignorance of science, this is ignorance of basic 'don't be so gullible as to believe what somebody in authority tells you just because they say so'. Don't you know how dangerous that is? It's been at the centre of many of the worst atrocities of history...

Unbelievable.

I'll admit I may have jumped the gun a little in posting this, and that that video doesn't provide much pertinent information. But just because this is a new discovery without much research to back is as of yet is no reason to dismiss it completely. With that kind of attitude, science would not progress at all.

Of course, make wild new hypotheses. That's crucial to science.

But what science is really about is testing your hypothesis. This person has done no research, discovered nothing new because he hasn't bothered to look, and has the lunacy to 'guarantee that the experiment would give a positive result', when everything he has said runs contrary to established (experimentally verified) theories of the world, and indeed is contradicted by the people who have actually done experiments on this.

Clearly in these circumstances there is all the reason to dismiss it completely, as you would dismiss an email from a wealthy Nigerian.

No idea if he is right or wrong but i always wondered why these things happen alot. I have a feeling i am being watched, and lo and behold i am being watched. I have had this happen several times. Kinda freaky...

Originally Posted by Xei

Of course, make wild new hypotheses. That's crucial to science.

But what science is really about is testing your hypothesis. This person has done no research, discovered nothing new because he hasn't bothered to look, and has the lunacy to 'guarantee that the experiment would give a positive result', when everything he has said runs contrary to established (experimentally verified) theories of the world, and indeed is contradicted by the people who have actually done experiments on this.

Clearly in these circumstances there is all the reason to dismiss it completely, as you would dismiss an email from a wealthy Nigerian.

As far as I can tell after watching it twice, he's done the experiment already. He's saying that if you did the experiment from 30 feet away, he guarantees you'd get positive results.

Anyways, I thought it was pretty cool. Doesn't seem to be much of a stretch, yet there's a lot of debate going on.
I'm going to start staring at people in public way more now.

Originally Posted by Xei

here's no evidence that brain waves carry information, and no evidence that out brain can detect them. We can't even detect strong electromagnetic waves. That's why we build radios.

Modern medical science uses technology to pick up human brain waves from a distance. In other words, our technology can pick up our brain waves OUTSIDE of the physical brain because these brain waves are being projected OUTSIDE of the physical brain. In other words, our brain has an energy field. Does it carry information? Medical science wouldn't be trying to understand these brain waves if they didn't.

YOU, your memories, your thoughts are NOT the brain cells. You, your memories and your thoughts are the ENERGY being fired from one brain cell to the other. You are the energy field being held within the physical brain. Therefore, this brain energy does carry information, the information of you. Our digital computers work in a similar fashion.



It aint glowing for show!

We can also read the electromagnetic information of the heart being projected from the body currently as far as about ten feet from the body. Though many suspect this heart field projects even further. The different waves of energy the heart produces directly correlate to your emotional well being. These heart fields interact with other heart fields. There is a lot of research going on right now.



We experience the electromagnetic field of other peoples hearts, every day!! All these years we've been calling it vibes. Sometimes you get a good vibe from someone, sometimes you get a bad vibe. It's not all in your head. It's real. It's a real energy field that correlates to that individuals emotional state of being, and you are interacting with it.

There is something else you need to understand.

Radio waves are all around us. But we can't (naturally) pick up the information they carry. We need a specific tool to do this, like a radio station. Our current technology can see the waves being emitted by our body. We know that, thanks to a decade of research, that there is a real transfer of information taking place within our bodies electromagnetic fields.

But we have no technology that can tell us exactly what this energetic information is saying. And it's not hard to understand why. Just as you need a brain to experience the information being transferred between the brain cells, so to, do you need a heart and a brain to experience and decipher the information of our bodies electromagnetic fields.

For any technology to accurately read this 'digital' information being emitted by our brain and heart, that technology would have to be AS COMPLEX as the brain and heart.

Intuitive people have been harping for years that love is more than a chemical reaction. THEY WIN! It's energy. Harmonic energy between two heart fields. Intuitive people also say, you can read a persons intention by their eyes. My money is they're right.

Originally Posted by juroara

We experience the electromagnetic field of other peoples hearts, every day!! All these years we've been calling it vibes. Sometimes you get a good vibe from someone, sometimes you get a bad vibe. It's not all in your head. It's real. It's a real energy field that correlates to that individuals emotional state of being, and you are interacting with it.

Not convinced. I think people simply see what they want to see. To me, vibes are psychological and even if there was some electromagnetic field, I think you'd have to be a shark to feel it.

Originally Posted by Paraknight

Not convinced. I think people simply see what they want to see. To me, vibes are psychological and even if there was some electromagnetic field, I think you'd have to be a shark to feel it.

lol..'even if there was an electromagnectic field'. Not if there was....THERE IS. In one experiment they observed the heart field of a boy and his dog. The two were allowed to be together. While the dog was happily wagging his tail to be reunited with his owner, and while the boy was loving his dog, their two heart fields became what the scientists call coherent. It's not something strange or supernatural, it's quite natural and happens every day.

The real fascinating stuff happens when the scientists asked what are the global implications.

Originally Posted by Xei

A quick Google would have shown you that such experiments have in fact been done and they've given negative results; source:

...............

Case closed.

I don't think you're understanding this phenomenon.

People look at us all the time. But the sense of being stared it is usually emotionally strong. Sometimes we feel this eye staring at this is coming from someone who has a malicious intent towards us, or sometimes it's the opposite. They're staring at us because they're in love. What ever the case, the sense of being stared at carries a conscious intention behind it.

You can ask a random person "Stare at this random person". But even if their eyes are gazing at that person as told, they could be thinking about a cheese bugger! In this case, they're not consciously staring at this person. Their eyes just happen to be looking at them, but consciously, their thoughts are else where.

The video suggests that the sense of being stared at is because of the persons brain wave sending the message "I am staring at you for a conscious reason". But if you're just looking at someone, but thinking about something else, it's a different message.

Were not robots. It's going to take something more than a yes or no experiment to close this case.

I can always tell when the ladies are checking me out.

Edit: Meh, fuck it. I don't even care about what I was saying originally.

Kromoh, tell me more about the nature of Energy as a constant.

Very well. I think we'll have to agree to disagree here. I personally think people only see, or in this case feel, what they want to feel. Let me give you an example. Try this out:



Same goes for "feeling" EM fields. Whatever you feel is as a result of you believing you can feel something and there is no scientific explanation as such in my opinion. Like with placebo medicine; it works even though it shouldn't purely because you think it should. This is where all this mystical energy stuff stems and although sometimes there may be something to it, I generally don't believe in it. So yeah.

Originally Posted by Paraknight

Same goes for "feeling" EM fields. Whatever you feel is as a result of you believing you can feel something and there is no scientific explanation as such in my opinion. Like with placebo medicine; it works even though it shouldn't purely because you think it should. This is where all this mystical energy stuff stems and although sometimes there may be something to it, I generally don't believe in it. So yeah.

Did you try the hands technique?

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Did you try the hands technique?

I did now but as expected it doesn't work on me since I'm convinced it won't.

Using the hands technique you can actually move a lump of salt crystal to move objectively without touching it. You can get it to rock back and forth on a hard surface, like a table. This can be observed by anyone.
Why not try to accept hypothetically that it might be possible? I am not saying believe in it blindly, but to be open that it might be true hypothetically. Like a scientist, don't have your mind made up before the experiment. Then it should work. Also you need to breath a lot before you try it. I suggest the breath of fire. Then you can buy a himalayan salt crystal or even try it in the store without buying one. It works!

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Using the hands technique you can actually move a lump of salt crystal to move objectively without touching it. You can get it to rock back and forth on a hard surface, like a table. This can be observed by anyone.
Why not try to accept hypothetically that it might be possible? I am not saying believe in it blindly, but to be open that it might be true hypothetically. Like a scientist, don't have your mind made up before the experiment. Then it should work. Also you need to breath a lot before you try it. I suggest the breath of fire. Then you can buy a himalayan salt crystal or even try it in the store without buying one. It works!

I'm sure it could be possible, just for different reasons. I don't remember where I read this, but you know the monks that claim to be able to control Chi energy? They actually have a measurable charge throughout their body. It's the reason why that's debatable. When you rub your hand you do generate energy; heat for the most part. Salt crystal might have some chemical property that maybe even makes them change shape depending on the temperature of the surrounding air, I dunno. It's the reasons that bother me. Most of the time the reasons don't make sense. You know the monks that meditate and can prevent hypothermia when they get a blanket of freezing cold water put on them while any other person would pass out and die? They're obviously doing something. As a man of science I simply don't accept abstract, mystical explanations, that's all.

My sister stares at me a lot...big eyes (though, not as big as mine ). It's creepy!

When I have my eyes huge and I'm staring at someone...one kid says I'm "staring into his soul"...or if he's there and he sees me doing it to someone else. Really, it's just my creepily huge OMG eyes.

Originally Posted by Paraknight

I did now but as expected it doesn't work on me since I'm convinced it won't.

And that is a shame.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

And that is a shame.

If you say so.