I personally think it's a very interesting subject but as you mentioned, not much info on it |
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Well... I know shows like Full Metal Alchemist and everything are obviously very fictitious... but what do you all thing about actual spiritual alchemy, supposedly studied by many eastern philosophers? |
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I personally think it's a very interesting subject but as you mentioned, not much info on it |
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We think of alchemy as a bunch of medieval pseudo-chemists trying to make gold, but this is a metaphor for spiritual alchemy. Sure, there were probably some people actually trying to make gold out of lead, but that is impossible. |
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hmm, is this the same as the old medicine where they only used natural products to make medicine or am I confusing this now with something else? I find using natural products to make medicine fascinating unfortunately, I don't there are much books on that |
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What do you mean by natural? Everything was natural then. But of course if you think that mercury, sulphur, colloidal gold, colloidal silver, etc. as unnatural, since it is not plant based, then no. But it is, of course, natural. |
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As a fan of Fullmetal Alchemist my self. I don't think real alchemy exists. And I highly doubt it you can use Alchemy to pull up poles and stuff from the ground like Edward does, etc. One day in my History Class. My teacher was talking to us about Alchemy. She said people have tried using alchemy but failed. Well that's just my opinion any way. I didn't say I didn't believe in Alchemy. I'm saying I doubt it exists. |
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Oh, you guys are talking about a cartoon with magic powers. Yeah, that doesn't exist. |
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Alchemy is a process of refinement by reducing a substance to its essence in order to purify it. |
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I really like this definition! thanks for sharing! |
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@ SaMaster14, |
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When i think of alchemy, i think MMO trying to make armor or weapons or potions or whatever. |
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I've been told that alchemy is the transmutation of spirit. But I have no idea where this claim originates from or what it's based on |
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There is a company that makes alchemical elixirs called PARALAB. I can't find the society right now, you may want to check www.Alchemylab.com |
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Last edited by Dannon Oneironaut; 05-04-2010 at 02:37 AM.
How interesting! I wasn't aware of the literal break down of it physically. But I do not think that celibacy is necessary. Tantric yoga encourages sexual activity. I think with the proper diet and supplementation, you can have all the sex you like and still supply your body with enough protein to allow for alchemy. Eating according to the Raw Diet is a great option to provide your body with optimal nutrition. And if you supplement that diet with the proper vitamins (such as DHEA, which is the building blocks of hormones in your body, in conjunction with steroidal saponin complexes to convert it to testosterone naturally) you can provide your body with the resources to thrive physically and yet improve your alchemical practice. For protein, body builder shakes are the best. In this way, "to sex or not to sex" becomes a personal preference instead of a spiritual limitation. |
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To find out most all of the information on modern day alchemy, search for Chemistry on google. |
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Yes, tantra is great alchemy. Transmuting desire into bliss. Using sensation and bliss for reality checks or lucidity. Interesting information about DHEA and steroidal saponin. But it sounds scary: steroids. But I am not too concerned about celibacy vs. non-celibacy. For me, moderation and right use (not for gratification but for expressing love) are good enough for me. Tantra and Taoist sexual techniques are great. |
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Oh I forgot this bit: |
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Yeah, that is why they were so serious and ambitious! Lol |
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It sounds as though you have struck a good balance. Really everything boils down to love in the end. |
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Last edited by flyinghawkins; 05-04-2010 at 06:09 AM.
A very long time ago, my hubby was a nuclear physicist. He worked at a place called Monsano (sp). One project was turning lead into gold. When he first told me, I thought they were making bricks of the stuff but he said the changes were on a molecular level or somesuch. And it took a (again, sorry for butchering the word) cyclatron (?) a lot of energy which made the project pretty useless. |
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In all honesty... the complete breakdown and recreation of metals and elements seems like it could be possible... we, as humans, just don't have the means to do so yet. |
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That is the real meaning of alchemy. It is not synonymous with chemistry. And the only way to change lead into gold would be through nuclear fission. Actually changing the atomic weight of the element. The real meaning of alchemy is spiritual alchemy. The chemistry of alchemy is not changing lead into gold, but in refining and purifying the essence of the matter in order to make an elixir that quickens the spirit and promotes longevity. |
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