Thread: Markusruhl's workbook

hey!!
im not sure if im doing this workbook right but i hope so

anyways, i never had a lucid dream and i started reading about it a few months ago. Im ultra excited and i really looking forward too have one.

Today i do reality checks a few times a day and i dont really know why but i read somewear that it's good to do that because you might do it in your dream and realize you're dreaming.

I dont really have any goals at lucid dreaming like everyone else like fly and spawn shit and stuf like that, i just want to experience it, walking around town, look at things, discover stuff and sleep with my neighbour. i dont know how it is but everyone keeps saying that iit's just like real life and it actually feels like you are awake, is this true? would apperciate an answer on that one.

i know how to get a wild but everytime im on my way into sleep paralysis i open my eyes and quit because im getting to nervous.

thanks, i will update my progress as fast as something lucid dream related happens!

tonight i dreamt 3 dreams that i remembered, i dont remember any details just fragments of the dream.

I usually dont remember my dreams but before i went to bed i told myself over and over to remember my dreams and that i would realizing, in my dream, that it was a dream.

Hey markusruhl! Welcome to the class

And yep, lucid dreams feel very real. Well, all dreams feel real, that's why we don't realize they're dreams. But when you KNOW it's a dream, you notice all the little details, it's a very amazing thing. And with practice, you can do practically anything you want.

I look forward to hearing about your progress, and I hope you get lucid real soon!

Good luck and happy dreaming

Don't forget to check out the links and resources compilation on the main class thread, it contains very useful info ;D You can also join the chats which we have a few times a week. You may ask/answer questions in there, and interact with the other students in a live setting

Welcome to the class!

You're not going to get lucid from just doing mindless reality checks. You need to truly question your reality. Reality checks don't get you lucid, awareness does. Reality checks just back up the suspicion.

Originally Posted by RareCola

Welcome to the class!

You're not going to get lucid from just doing mindless reality checks. You need to truly question your reality. Reality checks don't get you lucid, awareness does. Reality checks just back up the suspicion.

Define awarness

Originally Posted by markusruhl

Define awarness

Check out the Awareness section in the "Links & Resources Compilation" sticky at the top of this board.

im working on my awarness and it's going great, i hold up sometimes and questioning if this is real life and take my time to observe things such as my neighbours behvior or gravity and more, also doing RC's.

but i have my daily question for you who read this, is a lucid dream in third person or is it first person, the most of my normal dreams ( i remember ) is in third person i think or maybe some kind of mix between first and third person, i dont really know and i dont seem too think or questioning it in my dream, but i really hope that their third person so it's like looking with your eyes as in real life.
thanks

Lucid dreams tend to be more first-person, just the same as real life. Though third-person is possible too, but you have much more control over whether you want it to be third-person or not.

today i was dreaming something that i remembered when i woke up but when i was going to write it down but i forgot the whole dream when i was going to write.

my daily question: how long does it usually take to get a lucid, i try to do the RC's and questioning if something is real as often i can but i dont really understand how to question real life, i read all those links but i still dont really understand how, please explain!

Originally Posted by markusruhl

today i was dreaming something that i remembered when i woke up but when i was going to write it down but i forgot the whole dream when i was going to write.

my daily question: how long does it usually take to get a lucid, i try to do the RC's and questioning if something is real as often i can but i dont really understand how to question real life, i read all those links but i still dont really understand how, please explain!

Some people get lucid on their first day of practice, others take a week or two, others are trying for months before they have their first lucid. It's all about patience and persistence.

I think your problem is that you're just doing RCs blindly, you won't get lucid just from doing RCs as often as you can. These days I might reality check a couple of times per day, whenever I see something weird that that needs questioning. It's all about awareness, awareness, awareness.

no i dont actually i stop and really trying to question reality and not just ''go along'' and doing reality checks while im doing that. but im only aware when i think about it and thats like 5 times a day.

another question, how can the dreams be so vivid and just like real life when you dont even question the strangest things?? can you train so you do take notice of all the un-normal things?

Originally Posted by markusruhl

no i dont actually i stop and really trying to question reality and not just ''go along'' and doing reality checks while im doing that. but im only aware when i think about it and thats like 5 times a day.

another question, how can the dreams be so vivid and just like real life when you dont even question the strangest things?? can you train so you do take notice of all the un-normal things?

Just wait until you have some lucid dreams and you can judge for yourself, you keep asking these questions, we can't prove to you how real they are until you experience it for yourself.

&That's the whole point of awareness, to question the strange things. You don't question the strangest things in a normal dream.

Originally Posted by markusruhl

my daily question: how long does it usually take to get a lucid, i try to do the RC's and questioning if something is real as often i can but i dont really understand how to question real life, i read all those links but i still dont really understand how, please explain!

It's different for everyone, really. Some people even take months and years to get one, while others may have them in much less time. It's pretty much just like any other skill you have to practice to get better at.

Hmm, not sure if I can explain it properly. Basically you have to really, and I mean REALLY wonder and question things. You can't just say "Is this real?" then you pinch your nose and say "I can't breathe. This is reality."

You have to think about it, and really consider "Why can't I breathe? What if this is a dream right now? Does this scene look normal, and what makes it so? What am I doing, and why?". The reason why you should do this is because in dreams, everything seems normal to you. Mermaids can be flying in the sky and you would still think it's normal. That's why it's important to build up awareness. When you are more aware of your surroundings as well as yourself, it is easier for you to realize that there's something wrong in your dream scene. You would be more aware, and thus know that mermaids don't exist, and they especially don't fly! This is where reality checks come in. When you have realized that something is up, that's when you do reality checks in order to prove that it is, indeed, a dream. You can do physical reality checks to test if everything is working and behaving the way they should, like breathing even when your nose is pinched.

Patience is very important, it might sound like a lot of questioning. (It's not really -- it only takes a couple seconds to wonder about your reality) But you are trying to integrate a new habit in your life, so it will definitely take some time to get used to it.

I hope you comprehend what I'm trying to say, lol I'm not the best at explaining

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

It's different for everyone, really. Some people even take months and years to get one, while others may have them in much less time. It's pretty much just like any other skill you have to practice to get better at.

Hmm, not sure if I can explain it properly. Basically you have to really, and I mean REALLY wonder and question things. You can't just say "Is this real?" then you pinch your nose and say "I can't breathe. This is reality."

You have to think about it, and really consider "Why can't I breathe? What if this is a dream right now? Does this scene look normal, and what makes it so? What am I doing, and why?". The reason why you should do this is because in dreams, everything seems normal to you. Mermaids can be flying in the sky and you would still think it's normal. That's why it's important to build up awareness. When you are more aware of your surroundings as well as yourself, it is easier for you to realize that there's something wrong in your dream scene. You would be more aware, and thus know that mermaids don't exist, and they especially don't fly! This is where reality checks come in. When you have realized that something is up, that's when you do reality checks in order to prove that it is, indeed, a dream. You can do physical reality checks to test if everything is working and behaving the way they should, like breathing even when your nose is pinched.

Patience is very important, it might sound like a lot of questioning. (It's not really -- it only takes a couple seconds to wonder about your reality) But you are trying to integrate a new habit in your life, so it will definitely take some time to get used to it.

I hope you comprehend what I'm trying to say, lol I'm not the best at explaining

now i understand!!
but in my dream, if such things as flying mermaids seem normal just like anything else, how am i supposed to know that it isnt normal and do a reality check ? if i'm getting a wild instead of a dild or whatever this is, do i still have to do this reality checks and awarness thing ?? because i know how to get a wild and i think i can do it!! just a little bit afraid of sleep paralysis hehe..

Originally Posted by markusruhl

but in my dream, if such things as flying mermaids seem normal just like anything else, how am i supposed to know that it isnt normal and do a reality check ?

can you train so you do take notice of all the un-normal things?

the answer:

Originally Posted by RareCola

&That's the whole point of awareness, to question the strange things.

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if i'm getting a wild instead of a dild or whatever this is, do i still have to do this reality checks and awarness thing ?? because i know how to get a wild and i think i can do it!! just a little bit afraid of sleep paralysis hehe..

Awareness is pretty much crucial in any lucid dreaming technique. As for the WILD and sleep paralysis thing: I suggest you read the WILD portion of the links and resources compilation. Here is the link: http://www.dreamviews.com/f151/tutor...lation-133466/

ok! i understand the whole thing now but i still dont understand how im supposed to question it, should i just think how did i get here?????????? or what

Originally Posted by markusruhl

ok! i understand the whole thing now but i still dont understand how im supposed to question it, should i just think how did i get here?????????? or what

This excerpt from Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming should answer that question: Awareness Tutorial from Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming