Thread: Pennyroyal's workbook

Originally Posted by PennyRoyal

I havn't had any success with WILD just yet, but I definitely have observed some oddities in my thinking, etc as I get closer to unconsciousness. I tend to experience some light HI as I get close to falling asleep. Not so much 'images', but a rolling black/grey/dark blue fog that usually loops in the same pattern. I've tried to see if I can 'think' the fog into different shapes but it hasn't worked so far.

Cool, you're starting to see what that transition phase is like for you. Took me months to figure out but that's only because I was always sort of... not afraid, but hesitant to try WILD. I'm not sure why, because there's no need to be afraid of it.

What you'll pick up on more and more as you go is getting a feel for your personal rhythms or when to passively observe HI, when to maybe give it a figurative, imaginary nudge, and when to make that final push into your dream scene. I think you'll find that this journey is a lot of fun in and of itself.

Congrats again on the super-vivid dream. I'd be lying if I told you I wasn't thinking about a little cheddar cheese, B6, and AJ or raisins tonight. What foods did you use by the way?

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Cool, you're starting to see what that transition phase is like for you. Took me months to figure out but that's only because I was always sort of... not afraid, but hesitant to try WILD. I'm not sure why, because there's no need to be afraid of it.

What you'll pick up on more and more as you go is getting a feel for your personal rhythms or when to passively observe HI, when to maybe give it a figurative, imaginary nudge, and when to make that final push into your dream scene. I think you'll find that this journey is a lot of fun in and of itself.

Congrats again on the super-vivid dream. I'd be lying if I told you I wasn't thinking about a little cheddar cheese, B6, and AJ or raisins tonight. What foods did you use by the way?

I'll usually cook up 2 eggs and slap them on a bagel with lots of sharp cheddar and turkey. I've been reading that seafoods, especially crustaceans are rich in Tryptophan. Not a huge seafood fan though other than the occasional tuna sandwich or shrimp lol.


Hey, I have a question for you. I've been thinking about playing a bit with Menthol for dreaming purposes, I notice you contribute to the menthol thread. Is it important to use it in combination with something else? I notice a lot of the posts in the thread people are using it in combination with other supplements.

Edit: Fun fact, I guess Sea lions are SUPER rich in Tryptophan

Hey, I have a question for you. I've been thinking about playing a bit with Menthol for dreaming purposes, I notice you contribute to the menthol thread. Is it important to use it in combination with something else? I notice a lot of the posts in the thread people are using it in combination with other supplements.

I know the question wasn't aimed at me, but I have tried taking menthol for like a week or so, though I never posted on the Menthol thread. From my own experience, I only bought those menthol lozenges at the groceries (the candy type like 'Halls'). I took about 3-5 lozenges about 30 mins before sleeping, and took them right before afternoon naps. For me, they ALWAYS gave me the bizarre kind of nightmares. They were exciting for me, sure, but that's just because I like those kinds of dreams. But in general, my menthol dreams were dark in theme and ominous in tone—murderous and evil, twisted plots with freaky situations. The dreams were very vivid too.

I did the menthol thing with another friend from the chat and she reported experiencing the same things I was.

just wanted to share, not trying to scare you or anything. It might be completely different for you.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

I know the question wasn't aimed at me, but I have tried taking menthol for like a week or so, though I never posted on the Menthol thread. From my own experience, I only bought those menthol lozenges at the groceries (the candy type like 'Halls'). I took about 3-5 lozenges about 30 mins before sleeping, and took them right before afternoon naps. For me, they ALWAYS gave me the bizarre kind of nightmares. They were exciting for me, sure, but that's just because I like those kinds of dreams. But in general, my menthol dreams were dark in theme and ominous in tone—murderous and evil, twisted plots with freaky situations. The dreams were very vivid too.

I did the menthol thing with another friend from the chat and she reported experiencing the same things I was.

just wanted to share, not trying to scare you or anything. It might be completely different for you.

Cheers!

Thanks Paigey

No worries, not going to scare me. Nightmarish dreams are interesting, and fun after the fact Now i'm a bit more interested hahaa

Originally Posted by PennyRoyal

Hey, I have a question for you. I've been thinking about playing a bit with Menthol for dreaming purposes, I notice you contribute to the menthol thread. Is it important to use it in combination with something else? I notice a lot of the posts in the thread people are using it in combination with other supplements.

Edit: Fun fact, I guess Sea lions are SUPER rich in Tryptophan

Hey PennyRoyal! I apologize for missing your question on menthol!

My experience with menthol has been that it increases dream quantity and vividness (and at certain doses, dreams tend to become more amorous.) It hasn't really made me dramatically more likely to become lucid, which is why I've tended to combine it with other aids. It makes for an excellent supporting supplement to aids that hit the cholinergic system and boost awareness/dream memory and make lucidity more likely.

But I still recommend trying any lucid aid by itself at least once before combining it with anything else. That's good for helping you sort out how that particular aid affects you without any interference from another aid, which can make it harder to separate out what might be doing what. My approach can be a bit boring -- start with a low dose, start with the substance by itself, put lots of space in between uses, etc. but it's what sets me up with the data I need for more interesting combinations down the road.

And LOL @ sea lions being rich in tryptophan. Dig in!