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[Chimpertainment]

Dream Views Academy Chat! For the last couple months, I have been hosting a DVA chat class every Wednesday. However, the response from the Intro Class has been almost non existent. So I need some feedback from you all. Is it at the wrong time? Is chat not interesting? Do I smell bad? Please post your suggestions for how to make chat work better for you! Chat is a great place to exchange a large amount of ideas and content in a small amount of time. We also have several experienced LDers that join us who are able to answers questions and add to the overall discussion. For the most part, the class has consisted of only those DV members that haved stopped by during the chat time. However, the whole purpose of hosting the class is for Intro Class members. That being said, let me know how I can make it work, if you all really want to join. If the forum is more everybody's speed, then I will adjust accordingly. Thanks very much!

[Brizzl]

I think that instead of on a weekday you should host on a weekend. At least I would be able to go on it then. Saturday would be preferable.

[Chimpertainment]

Bump. More responses needed everybody. DVA chat is a great thing to have as a learning tool for everyone, but if we people don't want to be involved, it will probably be discontinued. If you haven't been to a chat class yet, then let me tell you a little about what happens. We have several dv members that drop by depending if they are busy. However, most of the class is focused on exploring the topic of the day and each person is encouraged to share their comments, experiences, thoughts, dreams etc. Chat is an awesome way to share because so much content can be passed between people in a short span of time. We have a good time while learning more about lucid dreaming. The forum is great, but I think its obvious that live conversations can be much better in many ways. Once again, I would really like to have this chat class continue, but that depends on the response from students. Even if you don't want to go, please respond. Thanks again!

[Chimpertainment]

Also, I will more than likely be changing the time of the class so more people can make it. So please please, tell me what time is good if you would like to come chat about lding with some fellow lders.

[bemistaken]

Weekend will work for me Chimpertainment. I would love to participate.

[Chimpertainment]

So its looking like the weekend works better for everybody. I am thinking a Saturday afternoon? Or is Sunday better? Let me know everybody! I would really like this to work for you all and I think those who participate will get a lot out of it. Even if you can't make it to every class, if you think you could drop by every once in a while, vote on the poll and let me know what time is good for you! Thanks!

[Chimpertainment]

Thank you both for you input. This Saturday, I am going to go ahead and have a class in the early afternoon. I will shoot for 1pm -8gmt pst. Any topic ideas would be appreciated, see you there!

[Chimpertainment]

Class today in 20 minutes!

[Chimpertainment]

We had a class in DVA today! Spoiler for [From dreamviews/#DVA on 2013-10-26 at 15:59:16 CDT by Serpentoj: [Comment: DVA] <Chimpertainment> we will start a few minutes after the hour to allow some time for people to gather <Chimpertainment> until then, feel free to talk about whatever <Chimpertainment> the power of expectation and intention have been on my mind this week <noeul55> That's big <Chimpertainment> the ability of those two qualities to trigger lucidity <Savsal14> hmm <Chimpertainment> ive been feeling like something is missing, but on the other hand something tells me that is just an expectation <Savsal14> this looks interesting since i have them both but no lucids this month <Savsal14> xD <Chimpertainment> and if i expect that i have everything i need, and intend fully for it to happen, to be prepared for it to happen, then i will get better results <noeul55> Lately <noeul55> I expected <Savsal14> you have better chances but still it's not a guaranteed success <noeul55> to have a LD every night <noeul55> Just because <noeul55> like <noeul55> I felt like my dreams awareness <noeul55> was <noeul55> big enough <noeul55> to get a LD every night <noeul55> Since then <noeul55> whenever I wake up <Chimpertainment> yeah <noeul55> I have the feeling I had a LD <noeul55> Yet , Remember nothing <Chimpertainment> welcome TehDalek and Hathor28 <TehDalek> Hai <noeul55> Hi tehdalek <TehDalek> am I on time? <Chimpertainment> yup <TehDalek> yey <Hathor28> ty <Chimpertainment> So im just gonna throw this out there and we can just discuss freely....*typing* <Savsal14> well noeul55 i think that your desire to LD makes you think you LD'ed <noeul55> That could be too <Savsal14> thats it most of the times <noeul55> but <noeul55> I don't think my desire <noeul55> is that <noeul55> much <Chimpertainment> Charlie Morley, an up and coming lucid dreaming teacher had a ted talk recently in which he said the single most important factor for having lucid dreams is: having full confidence that you will have a lucid dream...thoughts? <noeul55> to trick myself into believing I had a LD <noeul55> Maybe <noeul55> and awareness <Hathor28> u cant trick your mind <noeul55> No <Hathor28> thats the thing <noeul55> The mind can trick you <Hathor28> yes <noeul55> I used it in that way <Hathor28> but u got to understand your mind <Hathor28> and dreams <noeul55> well, I don't fully understand them <Hathor28> and what its telling u <Hathor28> u have to develop some kind of friendship with your SC <Savsal14> well, i agree with Charlie but your mind is so complicated that even if you are 100% confident your mindmay tell that you ahve doubts <Serpentoj> Chimpertainment: What with dreams relying mostly on expectations and beliefs, no surprise there. <Hathor28> i used to not understand them, now i do more <Savsal14> I have found a way so that a person can interpret most of his Dreams. Anyone wants to hear and then write opinions? <Chimpertainment> here is the video if you are interested in watching at some point TEDxSanDiego 2011 - Charlie Morley - Lucid Dreaming, Embracing Nightmares - YouTube <noeul55> Sure <Hathor28> sure <Hathor28> my sc is complicated but i am complicated too lol....so tie there <Chimpertainment> I guess what has been on my mind and sort of bothering me, is...How? how does one build the confidence necessary to have that feeling of determined "i WILL have this lucid" :i KNOW i am going to be lucid" <Chimpertainment> I know mantras <Chimpertainment> and all kinds of techniques <Chimpertainment> but i wanna hear you guys thoughts an dmaybe we can develop some ideas here <Hathor28> well incubating helps <Hathor28> and meditation <Savsal14> First: Whatever happens in a dream is most likely for a purpose. These are: To show you a weakness, to overcome a fear, to live a desire, to test different scenarios in your mind, to make whatever it comes through your mind image and sound <Hathor28> ADA helps <noeul55> I kept telling myself I'll do ADA <noeul55> T_T I don't do it <Savsal14> Second: On Lucid dreaming the amountof dream control is ONLY limited when you don't 100% believe that you can achieve a certain action. <Savsal14> any opinions on the First and Second? <Hathor28> live a desire <Hathor28> yes <Savsal14> i have found that after every dream i can interpret its purpose <Hathor28> sadly i dont have weakness much in dreams....only past things if it comes up <Savsal14> it's a way for your mind to communicate with you to do the stuff in First: <Plathix> Oh this started and I didn't notice... <Hathor28> lol <Chimpertainment> hey plathix <Chimpertainment> welcome welcome <Plathix> I'll just go up and read it all real quick <Savsal14> weakness can mean like be dependent to something nd cant afford to lose it <Savsal14> it doesnt have to eb a direct weakness <Plathix> keep going on, ill be back in a bit <TehDalek> Building the confidence up can be done by reading the thousands of success stories, and reading up on it. It shouldn't be long until the first lucid comes, and once that happens, the confidence can be greatly higher. Once you have one yourself you know 100% that it can be done <Chimpertainment> out topic today is: triggering lucidity <Chimpertainment> our* <Hathor28> well i dont lose things in dreams <Savsal14> it was just an example <Hathor28> ik <Savsal14> what if you are dependent to a person and he/she dies <Savsal14> and you feel terrible <Hathor28> but i hate past repeats <Savsal14> that shows a weakness <Chimpertainment> i appriciate the discussion on dream interpetation, but our topic today is triggering lucidity...yall got some thoughts on building confidence for triggering lucidity? <Hathor28> well i felt terrible about someone that was a zombie <Hathor28> lol <Hathor28> and had to be buried <Savsal14> living an old experience in a dream can mean that it just passed your mind while dreaming, OR you are scared of it OR you really like that experience <Hathor28> and was still alive <Savsal14> Hathor thats exactly what weakness is <Savsal14> your mind is telling you to destroy/overcome this weakness <Hathor28> IM SCARED OF PAST SHITS <Hathor28> cuz i dont want it again <Hathor28> i dont want repeats <Savsal14> your mind wants you to overcome this <Chimpertainment> guys <Savsal14> its trying to help you <conor58> Hi. <Chimpertainment> can we try to stay on topic pls? <Hathor28> its like my mind is replaying it and im like NO GTFO <Hathor28> well <Chimpertainment> welcome conor58 <Hathor28> helping only in emotional way <conor58> Thanks <Chimpertainment> our topic today is triggering lucidity <Chimpertainment> specifically about building the confidence that we will have a lucid <Hathor28> overcoming emotional wreck <Plathix> ok im done reading it all <conor58> oh, im exicted <Hathor28> lol <Chimpertainment> im familiar with techniques and ive used them all...however, there is a specific feeling to it..the confidence that you will have a lucid dream isnt accomplished simply by doing something, but actually feeling a specific feeling that produces a state of mind <Chimpertainment> a mind state that says I KNOW i am going to have a lucid dream <conor58> I WILL HAVE AN LD TONIGHT. <Chimpertainment> So i am wondering what everyones experience is with this, thoughts on it, how you go about building confidence and creating that feeling <conor58> Im extremely confident <3 <conor58> I come on here for my confidence <3 <Chimpertainment> good <TehDalek> Well DEILD is the easiest way to lucid in my opinion. Whereas a DILD requires that state of mind, that confidence. I have only releid on confidence for lucids a few times. The rest of my lucids are usually either random or deilds. <Plathix> In my last lucid dream -- some of you may remember me saying this -- I remember having some kind of "revelation" about becoming lucid and the complexities of it all, but I don't remember. This is most likely a feeling my brain created, a simulated feeling of understanding. <Plathix> I also got the sense that it was something unexplainable. <Chimpertainment> yes <noeul55> I have those too <conor58> This is so amazing listening to your thoughts and opinions <3 <Plathix> Which makes sense. How can you explain things like that? It's like trying to describe what red looks like. <Chimpertainment> the experience i am referring to is hard to explain...which is probly why we just end up telling people to do something..rather than describing the necessary state of mind <noeul55> Can I ask an off topic question? <Chimpertainment> go for it <noeul55> Do you guys ever talked to your SC in lucid dreams? <noeul55> Or do you plan to? <noeul55> Did* <Chimpertainment> yeah <TehDalek> I've tried, but my mind is a troll... <noeul55> What do you wanna ask it? <Chimpertainment> talking to dream characters is talking to the sc <noeul55> Not only yours Teh <noeul55> Not only yours :/ <Chimpertainment> or do you mean like the robert waggoner "voice behind the dream" thing? <noeul55> No, I mean <noeul55> Like ask them thingsd <noeul55> things* <noeul55> About life <noeul55> and <Plathix> I wouldn't call it "talking to my SC," but I've attempted using voice commands to get what I want. <Chimpertainment> yeah <noeul55> I don't know <Chimpertainment> i asked a dream character once "where do i belong?" <Chimpertainment> he pointed at my heart <Plathix> I've even gone as far as to bring up a holographic display to speak into. <noeul55> You belong to your heart <conor58> whas SC o.o <noeul55> :/ <noeul55> Subconscious <conor58> righto. <noeul55> I copy-pasted <noeul55> a list <noeul55> of things <noeul55> I wanna ask my SC <noeul55> From <noeul55> gab <Plathix> Something like, "dream, enable flight." <noeul55> I believe <noeul55> I wanna ask it serious stuff <noeul55> and stuff for fun only <Chimpertainment> yeah, asking dcs or your sc can be awesome...the answers are not always what you expect either <conor58> Guys, how exactly do you make things happen in a LD? <Serpentoj> I'm gonna assume that is the rest of my dream metaverse. It doesn't always want to do what I want it to do (like this morning). <TehDalek> Anything dealing with the mind requires almost 100% confidence. A belief that you can do it. This is true for tulpae, lucid dreams, and dream control. <noeul55> What about dream guides <conor58> If you want a type of scenery such as a beach, how exactly do you make one? <TehDalek> I can do telekinesis with no problem, flying sometimes, but summoning I am terrible at. <noeul55> Aren't they like a reflection of your SC <noeul55> ? <TehDalek> The most common way is thru opening a door <noeul55> You can ask them things about yourself <noeul55> or <Plathix> conor58: Are you wondering how to get to a desired location? <noeul55> everything <conor58> I'm wondering about anything Plathix <Hathor28> i can go everywhere <Hathor28> i roam too much <noeul55> I really have a hard time <Hathor28> and i love <noeul55> summoning <Hathor28> going out <Plathix> There are various ways to achieve this, but my own personal method is to just spin a 180 and imagine the scene behind me. <Hathor28> walking <Hathor28> driving <Hathor28> shopping <Hathor28> have fun <Hathor28> dancing <Hathor28> partying <conor58> I'm seriously so exicted to sleep tonignt <3 <Serpentoj> Open a door that you think the beach might be behind. Go into spectator mode and switch scenes (one of my favorites). Go to a computer or television and scan around for it, then focus on it until you're there (my other favorite). <Chimpertainment> expectation and intention <Serpentoj> @ Chimpertainment <Serpentoj> * conor58 <Plathix> For summoning, I call out the name of who/what I want and look around in an attempt to find it. This is usually successful. <Hathor28> beaches are SO awesome in dreams <Hathor28> no lie <Serpentoj> Or fly to the beach. <Hathor28> its better then vacationing to cuba <conor58> STOP IT GUYS IM SO EXICTED!! <noeul55> Plathix: I wasted my 2 lucids in a row yelling for someone <Hathor28> looooooooooool <noeul55> And in the end, it worked. <Hathor28> yes shouting for someone helps either <Hathor28> on <Hathor28> making them appear <Hathor28> or <Plathix> noeul55: I actually had doubt in my mind while calling out the name. But it has worked almost every time now. <noeul55> I really expected him to appear <Hathor28> making the dream end if its a bad dream <Serpentoj> conor58: But, wait, there's more! Maybe you want to start off at the beach, instead. Imagine it as you're going to sleep. <Chimpertainment> expectation can be described also as a confident belief....and intention can also be described as directed willpower....if you are able to take these concepts and apply them practically..they will help you do anything you like in an LD <noeul55> So in the end, after yelling and asking DCs <noeul55> He finally appeared <Hathor28> great feeling <Hathor28> i bet <conor58> Serpetoj!! Does that happen!?! <Hathor28> <Hathor28> yes it works conor58 <Plathix> noeul55: Try looking in crowds and around corners and anywhere you can't exactly see without focusing in while calling out. <noeul55> Ok <noeul55> where do I find a crowd <conor58> I'm seriously so exicted. <Hathor28> i do that 2 <Plathix> Any group of people could work <noeul55> I guess I'll take the corner thingy <Chimpertainment> everyone works differently. so working with the general concepts of dream mechanics can be more effective than focusing on specific techniquesa <Hathor28> crowds always makes me look for jack <Plathix> Yes, I agree with Chimpertainment. I'm just sharing my own personal techniques. <Hathor28> or i sense hes there <noeul55> Yeah <Chimpertainment> indeed, but what makes your person technique work? <noeul55> You're right Chimp <conor58> Can you summon friends and family?? <Chimpertainment> whats behind it? <noeul55> Everyone works differently <Plathix> I'm not sure. <noeul55> Might it be related to <Hathor28> do u want them to appear? <Plathix> Like I said, doubt doesn't nessicarily change the outcome. <Chimpertainment> those are the things that cross over between people *Serpentoj should try the crowd thing again the next time he wants a monster.* <Hathor28> its about wanting <noeul55> lol, You like guys, demons and monsters? <Hathor28> like a wish <noeul55> Nice combination <Plathix> I've had much doubt during my techniques, but they still worked... <Serpentoj> noeul55: <Chimpertainment> a confident belief... <Plathix> I think I actually have a theory behind it... <Hathor28> im such in a good mood ALL day cuz of my dream ^_^ <Hathor28> no ex calling...phone is off <Plathix> The techniques I've used all share something in common. Whenever I use them, I feel as if I've set something off, a chain reaction that can't be stopped. This feeling seems to make anything happen. <Hathor28> oh the life <conor58> Hathor28 <3 <Plathix> It causes anxiety for me personally. <Hathor28> lol <Hathor28> yes i was about to do <3 <Plathix> When I call out someone's name, they will be here eventually, so I am compelled to find them before they find me. <conor58> I'm super exicted to LD tonight hopefully it'll be my first LD ever!!!! <Hathor28> claps <Hathor28> wish u luck <Plathix> What do you think of this, Chimpertainment? <conor58> *cheers* <Serpentoj> "U got dis!" <Chimpertainment> i think the way we navigate dreams is corrilated to how we expect them to work...and our intention or willpower to do something is only as effective as far as we expect it to be... <Chimpertainment> so, whatever you do is familair, you expect it to work, whatever it may be...trying new things tend to not work for a little while until you jump the expectation hurdles <conor58> U GUYS ARE SO SUPPORTIVE <3 <Chimpertainment> Plathix: i think you are using passive control, in that you do something because it has worked for you and it makes it happen...which is awesome <Chimpertainment> many times i try to use direct control but often times that is basically driving right through expectation which is hard <Chimpertainment> and it doesnt always work <Chimpertainment> so, you have to work around your expectations, discover them through how your dream operates <Chimpertainment> then tear them down <Hathor28> <Plathix> This can't-turn-back technique has worked with things I've never been able to do. <Hathor28> like? <Plathix> I jumped in the air with rocket shoes on and I had this thought that it was too late not to fly. <Hathor28> i used to reverse my dream and start over twice <conor58> wot Hat? <conor58> Explain morre. <Hathor28> reversal mode <conor58> o m gee. <Hathor28> like i was trying to find who killed my friend <conor58> How long does LD last for if you can go back twice :0 <Hathor28> who poisoned their drink....i reversed the dream like rewind <conor58> WOT.? <conor58> O M GEE STAHP. <Hathor28> well i did it twice but not in same dream <Hathor28> lol <Hathor28> ok <Plathix> so you used knowledge from the future to affect the past. <Plathix> PARADOX <conor58> I am going to burst with exicitment. <Hathor28> i rewinded to find the kulprit <Hathor28> <Hathor28> and i did <Hathor28> its like a game <Hathor28> or somewhat <Plathix> or maybe it was like the movie Next, and you were just living out a possible future. <Plathix> and you used your precog abilities to change it. <noeul55> Conor <conor58> That's me. <noeul55> What are you doing to get a LD? <conor58> My method is FILD. <Plathix> Isn't that a form of WILD? <conor58> Yuppies? <conor58> Yupp* <Hathor28> maybe Plathix <noeul55> It's a form of DEILD <noeul55> Which is a form of WILD <noeul55> SO YES LOL <conor58> :L <Plathix> It's a form of DEILD? I've never heard of that before. <Hathor28> lol <Plathix> Where did you read this? <TehDalek> Deild is awesome. c: So many people are into FILD tho. o.o <noeul55> DEILD is pretty much like FILD <noeul55> That's why I used it as a form of DEILD <Hathor28> i had many many weird stuff happen around dreams and waking <noeul55> The difference is that you move your fingers <TehDalek> .-. in deild you wake up and go right back to bed.. <noeul55> That's what you do with FILD too <noeul55> Because you need to be extremely relaxed <Hathor28> i do deilds sometimes when i want to continue my dream again <noeul55> so it's realted to it <noeul55> related* <Plathix> I just try to use deild as my main technique. <Hathor28> all i do is think/recall the last scene and gbts <Plathix> gbts <Plathix> ? <Plathix> go back to sex? <Hathor28> go back to sleep <Hathor28> lol <noeul55> omg lol <noeul55> Dirty <Hathor28> wtf is with sex <Hathor28> ? <Hathor28> today <Hathor28> lol <Plathix> sex lucid dreams <noeul55> People are talking about sex <noeul55> everyday <Hathor28> yes i had that <Hathor28> sld <conor58> -_- <Hathor28> wb <conor58> Thanks. <conor58> As I was saying. <conor58> FILD <Hathor28> k <Plathix> Good talk, everyone. I feel productive. <conor58> I wake up from my Alarm think about LDing like entering the dream, get extremely sleep and then tap my fingers <3 <Hathor28> i had a sex dream that didnt skip...it went to part after part after next part .....too exciting it rarely happens often <Serpentoj> Hathor28: Did you manage to actually get through it without getting trolled by your metaverse? <Plathix> Where did Chimpertainment go? Did he just give up on trying to keep it on topic? <Hathor28> lol <Chimpertainment> lurking <Chimpertainment> basically <Hathor28> yep Serpentoj <noeul55> lol <Chimpertainment> i dont mind, 15 mins left in class time <Plathix> class time? <Chimpertainment> yup <Hathor28> i think my mind gave in <Chimpertainment> started at 45mins ago and goes for an hour <Hathor28> my sc is like fuk dis <Hathor28> go do w/e <Plathix> What stops people from talking after the hour is up? <Chimpertainment> you can if you like <Chimpertainment> thats just when i leave <Hathor28> lol <Chimpertainment> you know <Chimpertainment> speaking of the topic <Chimpertainment> when i was a kid <Chimpertainment> i was able to LD with a dream journal, without reality checks, no techniques <Chimpertainment> i just knew i could do it <Chimpertainment> and i want to reproduce that <Chimpertainment> i recalled all my dreams as well <Chimpertainment> sry <Chimpertainment> without a dj* <Serpentoj> I don't RC, anymore. <Plathix> Me niether, <Chimpertainment> yea, theyve never worked for me anyway <Serpentoj> When I V-WILD or T-WILD or DILD, I just know. <Hathor28> neither do i <Chimpertainment> v-wild, t-wild? <Hathor28> dont need 2 <conor58> So yeah thats my method. <Chimpertainment> at any rate..i think if we were able to just KNOW without any extras, that we can lucid dreaming..its natural for us, then i think our sucess rate would skyrocket <Serpentoj> Chimpertainment: visual (imagine way into dream); tactile (pretend something is touching/rubbing you or vibrations until it is actually happening, then imagine way in). <Chimpertainment> we expect that doing all these mechanical things will cause lds to happen but i dont think thats how the brain works <Chimpertainment> oh ok <Hathor28> that end part sounds sexual Serpentoj <Hathor28> lol <Serpentoj> It could just be a massage! <Chimpertainment> you sound sexual :p <Hathor28> omg stop <Chimpertainment> hypersexual <Hathor28> with the massages <Chimpertainment> omg, its just sex, its ok :p <Hathor28> i watched 2 much sensual massage vids in utube now <conor58> I'm so exicted guys you have me pumped!! <Serpentoj> I like the massages. I can think, "a little lower," and it will actually go lower. <Plathix> Maybe I did unlock the secret to lucid dreams in that last dream. <Hathor28> omg <conor58> You LDers have any tips 4 beginners!? <Plathix> Maybe in my next lucid I'll remember it. <Chimpertainment> Plathix: i would follow that feeling...the unconscious wants to be lucid <Hathor28> it was a hot guy massaging a woman <Hathor28> fml <Plathix> Then I'll come back and tell everyone. <conor58> I had an EXTREMELY weird dream last night. <Chimpertainment> the unconscious does whatever it can to improve our chances of lucidity.. <Plathix> Then that will be the end all solution. <noeul55> and then we will all have LDs every night <Plathix> I'll be all like "LUCID DREAMS FOR EVERYONE" <conor58> <3 <Hathor28> i somehow dont dream every night <TehDalek> Chimp: Holy crap..I need to get that mindset <noeul55> Everyone will bow to you and stuff <Serpentoj> Hathor28: *remember <Hathor28> but when i dream i recall a lot <Plathix> My name will be in lights. <noeul55> I think that's bullshit <noeul55> :/ We dream everynight <conor58> ^ <noeul55> Are there any exceptions I don't know about? <Hathor28> well most of them i dont recall but like 50/50 i can recall <Plathix> Then all the lazy people who don't want to try for lucid dreams will come in and say, "it's easy now!" <Chimpertainment> yes, the subconscious is our friend..no need to fight it <noeul55> yep <noeul55> You will be ultra-millionare <noeul55> end of story <Hathor28> easy as couch potato <noeul55> everyone happy <Hathor28> lol <Plathix> Then I'll become immortal <noeul55> God if you invent <noeul55> a device <noeul55> that <noeul55> traps you <noeul55> in the dream world <Hathor28> NO <Hathor28> NO <Hathor28> NO <Hathor28> NO <Chimpertainment> i think most people think lding is like going to the store...put in the cash, get out the lds....but its more intuitive, experiential, and practical <Hathor28> u crazy <noeul55> Stop spamming <noeul55> and yes <Plathix> Then I will rule the world with a firm, but fair regime. <noeul55> No I'm not <.< <Hathor28> no <Hathor28> i wanna eat and stuff <noeul55> Everyone get's trapped in it <Hathor28> k <Hathor28> ? <noeul55> you can eat in a dream. <noeul55> For fuck's sake. <Hathor28> but it doesnt fill u <noeul55> So what <Hathor28> its only for tast <noeul55> Eat over and over again <Hathor28> taste <noeul55> Who cares <.< <conor58> why r u mad ;( <Plathix> tast <noeul55> You don't get fat and stuff <Hathor28> whos mad <Hathor28> ? <noeul55> and we can have interesting things <noeul55> like fighting with monsters <noeul55> and using katanas <noeul55> and <Hathor28> we are debating here <noeul55> EVERYTHING <conor58> Noeul o.o <noeul55> It's just another world <TehDalek> Ugh, that dream recording technology needs to come out sooner! ;_; <Plathix> ^ <noeul55> I know right!!!!! <conor58> AMEN TEHDALEK! <Hathor28> trap forever? <Serpentoj> I just remembered another fragment that involved playing a game with a sprite climbing into across scaffolding, and finding an old, large typewriter behind a rack on the scaffolding. <conor58> I HEARD ABOUT IT <3 <noeul55> We all did <noeul55> I'm looking forward it <Chimpertainment> you could record all your dreams..and still never remember them <noeul55> :3 <conor58> I did too. <Serpentoj> * into areas <noeul55> It doesn't matter <noeul55> At least you're watching them <noeul55> and then I can share them <Chimpertainment> it would be meaningless <noeul55> <Plathix> then you would remember them from the video <TehDalek> I want the dream recording thing more or less for showing others <TehDalek> c: <Chimpertainment> dreams are meant to be felt <Hathor28> recording dreams yep <TehDalek> So many times have I wanted to take pictures f dream scenes <Hathor28> i want that <noeul55> Didn't thought about that actually <noeul55> You're kind of right David <Hathor28> i wanna see my own porn <Hathor28> XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD <noeul55> what <noeul55> God <Chimpertainment> yeah, taking pics of dreams would be cool, true that <noeul55> Dreams are not for sex. <Plathix> think about it, Chimpertainment. You can remember entire dreams just because one tiny miniscule things reminded you of that dream. <noeul55> But <noeul55> people use it for sex too <.< <Hathor28> ik but u cant avoid it <Plathix> Imagine if you could watch the dream. You would remember the whole thing. <noeul55> You can do so many other things in dream world <Serpentoj> *playing back recorded dream* "Whoa. You mean I've had all those monsters the whole time? " <Plathix> It's there, you just can't remember. <noeul55> LOL <Chimpertainment> not exactly <noeul55> Daaaaaaaaaamn <conor58> Lucid Dreaming - Canon EOS 60D [Short Film] - YouTube <noeul55> "I'm one lucky man" -Serpentoj 2013 <Hathor28> omg <Hathor28> lol <Chimpertainment> just because you see something that happened in a dream, doesnt mean you will remember the dream <Hathor28> wait stop <Chimpertainment> wait, go <Hathor28> we are giving movie directors ideas! <Plathix> Yeah it kind of does mean that. <Chimpertainment> memory is more than that <noeul55> Not necessarily though <Hathor28> they will make a movie about recording dreams....after that inception ordeal <Chimpertainment> dreams are emotion just as much as sensory info <Plathix> If you were able to see the exact imagery that you saw in the dream, you don't think it'd at least jog your memory? <Chimpertainment> not if i have zero recall no <noeul55> Which will kind of end with you remembering <Plathix> Yeah, I think you're wrong. <Chimpertainment> its just sensory info, not a tactile experience <Chimpertainment> i can see that :p <Hathor28> watches sexual scenes lmao <Hathor28> omg <Hathor28> kill me <TehDalek> I disagree with you chimp <Chimpertainment> ive seen video of my past waking life and not remembered a thing about it <Serpentoj> Sometimes, I remember dream fragments (also like today) just after getting up and starting my day. Maybe I go into the bathroom to shower and then look down at the tile and remember a whole chunk of a dream. <Chimpertainment> but its on the video so it must have happened <TehDalek> Even reading one sentence from an old dream I can remember the whole dream many times <noeul55> Uh, I can't put my thoughts in word <noeul55> words* <noeul55> lol <noeul55> I have a hard time with this <Plathix> noeul55: so many thoughts, no words. <Chimpertainment> my family tells me about stuff that happened in the past and i dont remember a thing <Hathor28> with what <Chimpertainment> even though they tell me the whole story <noeul55> Exactly <Chimpertainment> still cant remember anything <noeul55> Can't put them in words <Hathor28> y <Hathor28> u can <noeul55> I can't <Hathor28> maybe u dont want to <Hathor28> ;P <Chimpertainment> memory is a lot more about feeling, especially for dreams..you dont get feeling from watching a video <conor58> IM SO EXICTED TO TRY MY FIRST LD, IMMA SERIOUSLY EXPLODE GUYS GUYS PLS PLS!! <noeul55> I always had a problem with that <noeul55> No, I do wanna <noeul55> But I can't <Hathor28> conor58: <noeul55> Because <Hathor28> calm down <Hathor28> lol <Chimpertainment> well thats the class peeps <noeul55> Either I would be extremly misunderstood <Chimpertainment> thanks for coming <noeul55> or anything else <Hathor28> awwwww <Chimpertainment> OpheliaBlue! <noeul55> Daww <Hathor28> lol <Plathix> Chimpertainment: your clock is two minutes slow <conor58> You guys have me completely EXICTED! <noeul55> U're late Ophelia <Chimpertainment> wlcome <noeul55> D: <TehDalek> You missed it! <OpheliaBlue> hey! <Plathix> fast* <Hathor28> XD <Plathix> not slow... <OpheliaBlue> sorry, just happened to look in LDing and saw a class <OpheliaBlue> just got off work anyway <Hathor28> wb <Serpentoj> And, Demonbot should be logging about... <Chimpertainment> tragedy] We would love for everybody to join us for our next class. I will post updates about when we will be having the class as soon as I know.