Hello Dream Views I am having trouble with the FILD method.

**citizensnips** · 08-31-2010 01:56 PM

First off let me say that I am new to lucid dreaming. My dream recall is good I remember 1 dream a night,and sometimes 2 dreams a night, and I record the dreams in a dream journal. I also have a dream when I take an afternoon nap. When I wake up in the middle of the night and in the morning I like to try FILD. I tap my fingers and against my mattress and soon my eyes start rolling rapidly in my head. My thumb on my other had sometimes twitches and my jaw shakes. After an estimated 10-30 seconds I perform a nose reality check. I close up my nose and try to breath. It usually fails and I open my eyes and see that I am not dreaming.Also, I don't like the nose RC. I turn on the lights and look at my hand and I realize that I am not dreaming. Sometimes when I open my eyes it feels like I open my eyes twice once in my subconscious then when I actually wake up. Am I doing it wrong or do I need more practice?

**DawgBone** · 08-31-2010 05:37 PM

Hi citizensnips. Welcome to DV!

Sounds like you already know some stuff, but you might want to check out the Tutorial Section. Also, there should be some new courses offered in the DreamViews Academy forums before long, highly recommended.

--DB

**Snowboy** · 08-31-2010 06:00 PM

Welcome to DV!

You seem to know a lot about FILD, and I am impressed at how much progress you are making since you are new to LD! The problem is, though, is that you are not waiting long enough to get into the dream. You have to wait a bit so that your mind can fill in the details of where you are going to end up and so that it can detach from the physical body. The reason you feel like two sets of eyes are opening is because you are trying to move your dream body, but you are not yet detached from your physical body, so your dream body movements translate over to the physical one as well. Good luck with your FILDs!

**citizensnips** · 08-31-2010 06:56 PM

Thank you snowboy. Although, I think I went overboard this afternoon with FILDing. I FILD'ed six times trying to go deeper into the dreamworld. When I tried going to sleep normally my eyes started to swirl fast in my head and I took a ten minute consciously without trying the FILD method.

**Brunor2** · 09-01-2010 03:02 AM

Give more time to the technique. You usually uses 30 seconds, try 45 or 1 minute. The nose RC is your best bet.
Imagine your room before opening your eyes - visualize it - if you get in a hurry and try to open your eyes without proper visualization, you'll open your real body eyes instead your dream body ones.

I never FILD during the afternoon nap (that I take everyday), just during the night.

**citizensnips** · 09-02-2010 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Brunor2

Give more time to the technique. You usually uses 30 seconds, try 45 or 1 minute. The nose RC is your best bet.
Imagine your room before opening your eyes - visualize it - if you get in a hurry and try to open your eyes without proper visualization, you'll open your real body eyes instead your dream body ones.

I never FILD during the afternoon nap (that I take everyday), just during the night.

I try imagining my room but the scene never materializes in my mind. Should I just lay in my bed for awhile thinking about the characteristics of my room until the picture comes clear?

**Brunor2** · 09-02-2010 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by citizensnips

I try imagining my room but the scene never materializes in my mind. Should I just lay in my bed for awhile thinking about the characteristics of my room until the picture comes clear?

First off, you need to past the excitement and the transition stage. Most of time, you'll not feel the transition, but you say you do (eyes moving, etc), after everythings calm down, imagine your room for a couple of seconds, then do a RC. If it works, open your eyes slowly - at this point, you may see random things, including your room, but with enough focus, the place will form after the correct visualization. Your room will not just ''form'' - you visualize it first, then open your eyes, normally. If everything go correct, you'll open your dream eyes and see your room.

**citizensnips** · 09-03-2010 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Brunor2

First off, you need to past the excitement and the transition stage. Most of time, you'll not feel the transition, but you say you do (eyes moving, etc), after everythings calm down, imagine your room for a couple of seconds, then do a RC. If it works, open your eyes slowly - at this point, you may see random things, including your room, but with enough focus, the place will form after the correct visualization. Your room will not just ''form'' - you visualize it first, then open your eyes, normally. If everything go correct, you'll open your dream eyes and see your room.

I visualized myself walking into my room after I felt the affects of the transition stage but when I did the nose RC I still moved my real body arm and I woke up and the RC failed. Perhaps I need more practice or visualize my room from the perspective of me laying in my bed.