Science Fair Project Help.

**LucidAnarchii** · 12-15-2010 02:10 PM

I'm looking to start a Lucid Dreaming science fair project.
So far the idea is to collect thirty people up including me and my partner.
Hand out dream journals with instructions on how to lucid dream and have them record dreams for about a month or so.
After that i want to try and incorparate getting the test subjects to use lucid dreaming to practice things in there dreams and see if it helps them in reality.

Now, i talked to my English teacher about this who happens to have a major in Pysch, and she totally shot me down.
Now i'm struggling to get a good concept together, i really want my project to be unique and i feel like it would have a chance at winning if done correctly.
Some help or guidance is appricated (:

**Maria92** · 12-15-2010 02:17 PM

Well, a month is about the average time it takes for non-naturals to get their first lucid dream, which is usually rather short and uneventful anyway. A month really isn't enough time, unless you can somehow scrape together a team of 30 natural LDers who get them about once a night at the very least. :/ And then of course you have to take into account dryspells and forgotten goals/dreams and other sorts of strange obstacles. Plus you'll need a control group to see if there is any significant improvement in the experimental group. I...really don't see this project coming together in one month's time, sorry to say.

Have you considered magnets? Judges really like giant, impressive magnets. And lasers. And rockets. ^_^

**LucidAnarchii** · 12-15-2010 02:22 PM

Well.... I technically have 2 months.
Or 1 and 28 days to be exact....
I can get enough people together and i can get materials.
I just need a better experiment to pursue i suppose.... Dreaming is going to be my topic i refuse to move on that.
Even though rockets and lasers do sound cool.

**nina** · 12-15-2010 03:40 PM

I agree with Mario, though I've never done a science fair project in my life so I only have an idea what it's about from television and movies. But he's right concerning the difficulty it would be with getting data from lucid dreamers, especially new ones or non-naturals. Did your teacher give you any advice? Are you a natural lucid dreamer? Or just interested in the subject? How familiar are you with lucid dreaming? One of the problems with doing dreaming as a topic for a science fair is that all of the information will be entirely subjective and any data anecdotal at best. Like I said, I'm not familiar with science fairs or how they are judged, but I would assume you would need a more solid and objective sort of topic. I could be entirely wrong on that though. You should probably discuss it more with your teacher.

**Xei** · 12-15-2010 04:03 PM

I think science fairs are an American thing, but aren't most of the projects interactive, solid things, rather than just data? I'm just saying that it'll probably be a lot more fun for you and the people attending if you make something physical rather than just have a board with a load of results on.

I'm not sure how you could do any real time dreaming experiments, see.

**nina** · 12-15-2010 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

I'm not sure how you could do any real time dreaming experiments, see.

Well he could do some kind of LaBerge style real time lucid dreaming experiment involving interactions with a subject experiencing a lucid dream and hooked up to an EEG machine to record brain activity. But obviously, this would not be realistic considering the person would likely have to be sedated in order to sleep/dream in such a crowded environment and where the hell would he get an EEG machine to begin with. So yeah, not likely. It could be damn cool if you actually found a way to do it though.