WILD question

**maryachy** · 07-12-2011 08:23 AM

I haven't had a lucid dream yet but am trying DILD, I also read a lot about WILD, but I have a question: is it possible to have a WILD when going to bed at night? Or do you have to sleep first and awaken during the night so you can go to REM sleep quicker?

**Mancon** · 07-12-2011 08:26 AM

It's possible but it is much harder and takes a long time to do. It is much better just to wake up a few hours after sleeping to attempt it. Good luck!

**maryachy** · 07-12-2011 09:10 AM

Are there people here who have done it? And with long time you mean, long practice or takes long before you start dreaming?

**Erii** · 07-12-2011 11:04 PM

Moved to WILD, my dear~

just and Mancon said, it is much harder to WILD at night, one major things is because you are not relaxed enough, after hours of sleep you become much more relaxed, making it easier, though there are other factors.

yes there are people who have done it, I have read a few things on here of people experiencing it, but its still very rare and unlikely.
Also, I believe Mancon was talking about it takes a long time to start the dream, but I can't speak for him ^^

**Puffin** · 07-12-2011 11:11 PM

Yep, it's very hard to relax enough if you try WILDing right when you get into bed. Another factor (and a pretty big one!) is that you're not in REM yet, so even if you manage to hit SP, the dream you enter will most likely be dim, not very vivid, and unstable. You might also end up drifting off to sleep, without a dream forming because there's nothing to make a dream from at that time. I've gotten SP twice when I got into bed, without doing a WBTB, but it ended quickly and I didn't enter a dream.

During a WBTB, you're usually in REM so it's much easier to slip into SP. Same goes for naps; there's a period of time during the day when your REM spikes a bit; this is 5 - 6 hours after waking. Personally, I can reach SP easier in naps than WBTB, but trying without prior sleep is hard.