Thank you very much for the lengthy informed reply. I guess I didn't know as much about Theta as I thought. lol. And yes, the majority are just trying to push a product for themselves by labelling Theta, but it is true that with meditation/wild, you can lower your dominant frequency to 4-7 though, am I right? That was the main thing I was wondering. It seemed I was falling asleep without even going through Theta. I hope to be able to gain the ability to go to Theta and from there, access hypnagogics to do things like Wild, remote view, obe, etc. And I know it all comes from SP but from what I got, I just had partial sp without any actual visuals. Do you think it was all in my mind, or I may have really been in Theta, just without the corresponding signs? And only once or twice when I was watching my thoughts did I accidentally follow them and drift off. Both times I noticed quickly and reset myself back on the path, but both times when I had done that, I was indeed deeper than before so I suppose that may have helped. lol And sorry for posting it in the wrong spot. I just wasn't sure if this belonged in the introduction because of the Theta and wild stuff but then again, I'm new here so I probably don't know as much as I thought I did. :panic