Thread: New with a question

Originally posted by DreamingGhost
Hello,
My name is Anna. *
I am fairly new to LD. I have been able to do it on and off for the last year, but most of the experiences *have been the last few months; thus making me start to read about them again and gather information. The new part comes in because I have not been having success in controlling them (LD’s), or being able to stay lucid. I always seem to end up getting sucked back into the dream or wake up a few seconds after I realize I am dreaming. The weird part about this is I can remember I am dreaming after being sucked back into it, I just can not control my dreaming self or anything else in the dream. There have also been times where I would be having a bad dream where I would stop in the middle of it and tell my self that I didn’t want to have this dream any more, so I would tell my self to wake up; usually I would do this by saying/screaming ‘wake up’ three times or just tell my self I need to ‘wake up now’. *
I have read a lot about Lucid Dreaming and other related topics. I am very interested in learning more on how to control LD’s and how to induce them. I have also been having great dream recall, remembering up to three dreams a night/morning.

One of my main questions for now would be:
What are you technique to staying lucid in your dreams, meaning, how do you stay lucid and not get sucked back into them? I have tried the hand rubbing thing, I have yet to try the dream spinning I have been reading about, and as of late I have been able to stay clam and not get too excited when realizing I am dreaming. I am willing to try anything at this point I think or you think may help me.

Take Care,
Anna

Hey there, and welcome to the forum!!
Try not to get so tense...if you know you are dreaming, you should know you have the ability to fight being sucked back into them...
What you can do is keep a Dream Journal. This will not only help your recall, but your Reality Checking as well. RC whenever possible, and don't let others insult you for that.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!!

I am also new to lucid dreaming. Though I had my first LD at the age of five, only recently I became interested in LD's.
I tried to focus on an object when realising that I was dreaming. Seems like I usually get too excited so I wake up so my primary concern when I have an LD is to keep it.
Writing your dreams in a dream diary is helpfull because that way you don't forget a lot of details and you can then know what dream signs usually apear. You can then focus on them when doing Reallity Checks.

Originally posted by SeptCore
I am also new to lucid dreaming. Though I had my first LD at the age of five, only recently I became interested in LD's.
* *I tried to focus on an object when realising that I was dreaming. Seems like I usually get too excited so I wake up so my primary concern when I have an LD is to keep it. *
* *Writing your dreams in a dream diary is helpfull because that way you don't forget a lot of details and you can then know what dream signs usually apear. You can then focus on them when doing Reallity Checks.

And welcome to you as well, SeptCore!!
So, you must be a natural.....that is awesome...
If you have any questions, just let me know!!

Originally posted by DreamingGhost
The new part comes in because I have not been having success in controlling them (LD’s), or being able to stay lucid. I always seem to end up getting sucked back into the dream or wake up a few seconds after I realize I am dreaming.

Hey DGhost,
controlling LDs is something that has to be practiced - period. I have been playin around with LDs for over a year now and I STILL can't control my environment or characters. However, I am able to stay lucid for longer periods of time now. I think this is where you should start because you cant practice LDing if you're not lucid long enough, right?

The rubbing hands and spinning techniques are all good places to start. There is one thing that will extend the time of your lucidity - interaction with your dream environment. The point is to keep your mind busy and focused on what you are experiencing in dreamland and not so much on pulling content from your subconsious and plugging it into your dream.

You may find yourself having somewhat boring lucid dreams for a while - sittin there studying the pedals of a flower, the grain on a wooden table, pattern on a tile floor - but you will eventually get to the point where you will be able to control the length of time you are lucid, THEN you can work on control.

Good luck ghost!

The rubbing hands technique worked better for me than the spinning technique. The images became more vivid with the first, and faded with the last. What was interesting was that in both cases I actually felt.. the sensations were close to realitty though a little less detailed and a bit more fade...
I think that even being able to use techniques for prolonging the dream is a form of control, because by rubbing hands, spinning, even looking at something because you WANT to; you control yourself, your dream-body. Control in dreams is rather directing them in a certain way...
I read somewhere in an article by LaBerge that in order to make an object, person or scenery apear.. or any other fact to happen in the dream, you have to expect it...
Maybe you have to influence your brain, to trick it into doing what you want by sending messages to the unconscient and subconscient... when you expect smth to appear in real life, for example, a certain shop around the corner, you unconsciently acces information about that location.. the shop's presence is smth normal that you don't have to think about, you just KNOW it.. when dreaming, the unconscient adapts to the dream world, making objects you expect, appear... the unconscious adapt to the dreamer's identity, but acts on almost the same mechanisms it would in wakiing life...
In real life the unconscient is influenced by the reallity.. in dream, you can influence the "realitty" by using the unconscient...
http://www.lucidity.com/VOLDE.html LaBerge has written about the role of the unconscient in dream and waking life... very interesting article that clears a lot of things....