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      Welcome to DV!

      Unfortunately, I can't help you. I hope someone else can. Maybe your therapist can?...
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      yeah she will, i think you misunderstood what kind of help i was asking for. i'm not upset or feeling depressed or anything, i'm just trying to figure something out.
      basically i wondered if anyone else on here had any experience of "healing" through dreams.
      i was also looking for info on sleep paralysis and people's interpretations of it. my hare krisna friend believes that it is ghosts or demons feeding off the energies that we give out. i think that it is our own negative emotions bubbling up, but i'm not too sure. i was really looking for people who had a greater understanding of this stuff to talk with because i have had some pretty intense sleep paralysis experiences and experienced lucidity by accident. i'm now begining to realise that maybe it wasn't accidental and that i need to learn more.
      i would also like to know from experienced dreamers, what benefits lucid dreaming and such has brought to their lives, other than fun dreams or greater control or fighting night stalkers? has it enabled anybody out there in any other ways? i find this stuff pretty fascinating, but there is a lot of random stuff on this forum to dredge through to find info.
      i've read a lot of castenadas books, but not "the art of dreaming"....i'm currently reading "out of body experiences" by janet mitchell. can anyone reccomend any other reading material that is beneficial for understanding this stuff?

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      sleep paralysis is something I have since I knew myself.
      It can be pretty frightened if you don't know what it is.

      Actually it is very easy to explain:
      Your body is already asleep, while your mind is awake.
      Hell yes, it is a weird feeling! But that's all.

      Please for your owns sake, stick to the books which are taught in schools and universities.
      I know you may feel insulted now, but forget all this mumbo jumbo from reiki and similar esoteric stuff.

      You can heal yourself in your dreams, that's plausible. Everything else is far fetched and belongs more to religious thinking.

      Stick to the facts and leave a "but maybe..." in the background.

      take care

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      no not insulted, i'm already aware of your explanation of what sleep paralysis is, and sorry those 10 words are not enough for me. i would like to ask if you have ever experienced any "mumbo jumbo" like reiki? it's not really esoteric...and i'm agnostic...don't believe in "religion". i believe that there is more to this universe than what we can see or rationally explain, and i'm interested in discourse not advice. oh. and honesty.

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      honesty swings with every word I say.
      You got your answer to my point of view in term of "sleep paralysis", which is by the way an experience it took me 30 years to find out, before I read about it in some books.
      It is just that and nothing more, if you're comfty with putting other meanings into it, I'm fine. All I offered you was what you asked for: the info and explanation of some other people.

      I also gave you my experience and oppinion an healing yourself in dreams.

      If you are interested in OBE, please check this site: http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/

      I think there you'll find more answers.

      take care

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      I realise you're probably looking for a deeper explanation of sleep paralysis but it truly is a physical condition that every person experiences every night... as you have probably read, this is to prevent us from acting out our dreams.

      However, this condition can be used to pursue other things like OBE, lucid dreaming, astral projection and no doubt lots of other things... if you can stay awake during the sleep paralysis and learn to control it.

      So ultimately, although SP is quite normal, you can do abnormal things if you stay awake during it and control it.

      All the best! I think you'll find your answers if you persist in your efforts.
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      Yes, I see that I misunderstood your question. Sorry about that.

      Seems like you got explained sleep paralysis pretty well. Even though sleep paralysis itself is just a physical thing, I believe it can be a gateway to other things like OBEs.

      You asked about healing in dreams. I believe it's possible. I sometimes do mental healing in lucid dreams, by having pleasant dreams, but also focusing on what's bothering me. I have problems with anxiety, and even though anxiety healing dreams for me don't have a permanent effect, it has a temporary effect.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dweezil View Post
      ...basically i wondered if anyone else on here had any experience of "healing" through dreams...
      Yes, absolutely! True healing occurs in the psyche and dreams are a very promising place for that to be able to happen.

      Regarding the SP - I definitely think you should regard that as an opportunity. As far as the "nasties" - We could probably debate and speculate and theorize for quite a while about what they are and never all agree, but I think the consensus would be that they can't hurt you, that it is only a matter of overcoming your fear.

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