Thread: is it dangerous...

Lucid dreaming isn't dangerous.
I don't really believe OBE is possible.

Yea I know Lucid Dreaming isn't but, yea oh.

No, there is no danger in tricking your body to sleep.

Originally Posted by eppy

I don't really believe OBE is possible.

i dont see why it shouldnt be possible. you might be thinking about AP, which i think is slightly different, and more unbelievable

An OBE is exiting your body, whether willingly or involuntarily, not necessarily tricking your body into believing you are asleep while your mind is wide awake.

Originally Posted by Daniel Danciu

An OBE is exiting your body, whether willingly or involuntarily, not necessarily tricking your body into believing you are asleep while your mind is wide awake.

ok, i guess you werent thinking about AP then. i think i will leave this arguement because all other knowledge i have is probebly a load of rubbish

i've heard its possibly dangerous to lucid dream. sleep is the time where your brain repairs itself and recooperates (right word). its basically chewing bublegum, its getting no stimulation its just dreaming and turing off slightly. when you lucid dream your brain is more active and teh brin might not be able to perform its nightly tasks. ive heard of people developing paranioa, and anxiety, also the people who lucid dream i know seem to be more prone to sleep paralysis, but thats just my own observation. again i dont know any of thsi for a fact ive just head about this.
non-the-less i will still continue to learn how to and (hopefully) lucid dream

Originally Posted by littlesamurai

i've heard its possibly dangerous to lucid dream. sleep is the time where your brain repairs itself and recooperates (right word). its basically chewing bublegum, its getting no stimulation its just dreaming and turing off slightly. when you lucid dream your brain is more active and teh brin might not be able to perform its nightly tasks. ive heard of people developing paranioa, and anxiety, also the people who lucid dream i know seem to be more prone to sleep paralysis, but thats just my own observation. again i dont know any of thsi for a fact ive just head about this.
non-the-less i will still continue to learn how to and (hopefully) lucid dream

You've heard wrong. Absolutely everything you said isn't true

Originally Posted by littlesamurai

i've heard its possibly dangerous to lucid dream. sleep is the time where your brain repairs itself and recooperates (right word). its basically chewing bublegum, its getting no stimulation its just dreaming and turing off slightly. when you lucid dream your brain is more active and teh brin might not be able to perform its nightly tasks. ive heard of people developing paranioa, and anxiety, also the people who lucid dream i know seem to be more prone to sleep paralysis, but thats just my own observation. again i dont know any of thsi for a fact ive just head about this.
non-the-less i will still continue to learn how to and (hopefully) lucid dream

I`ll just repeat what Neko-san above me said - a bit more detailed. Everything you`ve just said is not true, and in no way should it stop you from attempting lucid dreams.
First off sleep paralysis is natural - it happens every night you sleep. Dreaming as well happens every night - you just don`t remember it. If people educate themselves on what sleep paralysis really is - they can loose all fear of it as it is not harmful at all ( i am talking from personal experience - just last month i woke up in SP 5 or 6 times)
About the mind chewing bubble gum. The mind is an amazing mechanism which we have not yet even begun to understand. When you are in REM - you are there anyway , and ACTING willfully as you would do in real life. .You are "conscious" - as in you think it`s real. So - becoming lucid is using the already active mind's dreams to your own entertainment. Like with the same amount of water that you drank, you now take a shower with - same water, same amount , different use for it.
So leave aside these ideas, and discover the world of LD knowing that it's safe and good for you. ( Free your mind... Neo )

An OBE is simply the perception that you have been detached from your body. Whether it is real or not is still debated, personally I believe that it's fairly easy for your body to give you the impression that you're not longer in it even though you are, just like in a dream about anything else, except that an OBE can happen while you're awake as well. Some people think it means you've left the real reality behind and are astral projecting... if that's what you mean, the forum Beyond Dreaming is your destination.

In terms of keeping your mind awake while your body falls asleep to enter a lucid dream, this is referred to as a WILD (Wake Initiated Lucid Dream) or inaccurately sometimes as an OBE. I have yet to see a single ounce of the truth suggesting that it is anything but perfectly safe. If you think it's your soul entering an astral plane or something, I think a better grip on reality is probably necessary and the most dangerous part. Otherwise, it's harmless and a neat way to enter a lucid dream.

Originally Posted by Azuraos

I`ll just repeat what Neko-san above me said - a bit more detailed. Everything you`ve just said is not true, and in no way should it stop you from attempting lucid dreams.
First off sleep paralysis is natural - it happens every night you sleep. Dreaming as well happens every night - you just don`t remember it. If people educate themselves on what sleep paralysis really is - they can loose all fear of it as it is not harmful at all ( i am talking from personal experience - just last month i woke up in SP 5 or 6 times)
About the mind chewing bubble gum. The mind is an amazing mechanism which we have not yet even begun to understand. When you are in REM - you are there anyway , and ACTING willfully as you would do in real life. .You are "conscious" - as in you think it`s real. So - becoming lucid is using the already active mind's dreams to your own entertainment. Like with the same amount of water that you drank, you now take a shower with - same water, same amount , different use for it.
So leave aside these ideas, and discover the world of LD knowing that it's safe and good for you. ( Free your mind... Neo )

not from what ive heard when you sleep i think (not shure will research soon) i read somewhere that things liek the logic art of your brain turn off LD ing stiwtches it back on, again im not shure. if i was thinking rationally would i accept that last night i was in a store with a condom despencing quater machine, and a THC pill despencing quater machine? then 5 seconds later i was at my school looking for my girlfriend with her hooded sweatshirt? if that happened in real life would you go on as normal? if your brain was working proporly i would realise that that wasnt possible and i would question it. obiously from that peice of evidence your brain isnt working as it does during awake periods. in the morning when you wake up people are dopey and dont think as well becuase theyre "still waking up". i may be wrong but LDing wakes up part of you brain which when you sleep is usaully off.

i dont think it would hurt you, but it would be good to take a brake some times, right?

Originally Posted by littlesamurai

not from what ive heard when you sleep i think (not shure will research soon) i read somewhere that things liek the logic art of your brain turn off LD ing stiwtches it back on, again im not shure. if i was thinking rationally would i accept that last night i was in a store with a condom despencing quater machine, and a THC pill despencing quater machine? then 5 seconds later i was at my school looking for my girlfriend with her hooded sweatshirt? if that happened in real life would you go on as normal? if your brain was working proporly i would realise that that wasnt possible and i would question it. obiously from that peice of evidence your brain isnt working as it does during awake periods. in the morning when you wake up people are dopey and dont think as well becuase theyre "still waking up". i may be wrong but LDing wakes up part of you brain which when you sleep is usaully off.

Again, there is nothing wrong with waking yourself up in a dream. The above is the main point of why Reality Checks are performed.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, but just the fact that you were either told by someone or read somewhere that it's bad to, basically, Lucid Dream means that you've got a BUNCH of tutorials waiting for you in our tutorial section.

Originally Posted by littlesamurai

not from what ive heard when you sleep i think (not shure will research soon) i read somewhere that things liek the logic art of your brain turn off LD ing stiwtches it back on, again im not shure. if i was thinking rationally would i accept that last night i was in a store with a condom despencing quater machine, and a THC pill despencing quater machine? then 5 seconds later i was at my school looking for my girlfriend with her hooded sweatshirt? if that happened in real life would you go on as normal? if your brain was working proporly i would realise that that wasnt possible and i would question it. obiously from that peice of evidence your brain isnt working as it does during awake periods. in the morning when you wake up people are dopey and dont think as well becuase theyre "still waking up". i may be wrong but LDing wakes up part of you brain which when you sleep is usaully off.

First of all, there are some people that are born with the natural ability to be Lucid in almost every one of their dreams.

It may be true that Logic is hampered in normal dreams. But unless your becoming Lucid completely spontaneously, you need to be able to logically deduce that there is something dreamlike going on in order to become Lucid in the first place. So it is still working. Also, becoming Lucid does not automatically mean that perfect logic is turned on again. People can think pretty illogically sometimes, even when they know it's a dream.

Really though, the only difference between A Lucid Dream and a none Lucid, is that you know your dreaming in a Lucid. And make different decisions as a result of that knowledge. You make your own choices in none Lucids too.
They are only different because you are not aware of the truth of the situation.