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      First WILD attempt

      A couple of days ago I tried my first WILD during a nap. I laid still for a couple of minutes and then my limbs were getting a little numb and started to tingle. After a couple of minutes of that my body vibrated and I started to get a little visuals, half of peoples heads in the way like when you watch a simple black & white picture for a minute and then close your eyes you see a negative of the picture. But after staying still for I don't know how long, that was all that happened, no transition into a dream. So I gave up. But how can I ascend further into a dream instead of just hovering in the stage with the tingling limbs and the minor visuals (I also felt as if my limbs were in different positions)?
      What's the difference between dreaming that you're lucid and lucid dreaming?

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      persistance u cant give up.some people have laid there for hours waiting to fall in. ive only got as far as the vivid 2d imagery and that was only once. but, i know that you need to just try to hang on to a little conciousness while trying to fall asleep. read the tutorials. there are like 10 of them i suggest reading all of them.
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      You sould definately try with WBTB technique ( Wake back to bed ) I can't go to SP or get the visuals in a nap but when I wake up and try I can. I don't think I have ever done a WILD just a DEILD. I always have to swallow ;(

      Good luck and keep trying!
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      Quote Originally Posted by toejammer16 View Post
      that is why they call it 'wake BACK to bed' and it states 'Getting up an hour early, staying awake for 30-60 minutes reading about lucid dreaming, doing MILD briefly, then taking a morning nap is an effective way to induce lucid dreams.' (mild being an example of a technike you can do)
      i just hate seeing people give wrong advice that is confusing to the reader

      i have been to many sites that this happens on. not singling you out but i mention it when i see it cos it makes stuff confusing to new people

      wikihan - dont give up and sorry for this disruption here - i hope it clears up what a wbtb is for you anyway
      Do you not think WILD is not part of WBTB. When WILDING you are up for a while until SP kicks in and your in your dream.... :sigh: it's no use.


      You may also want to try to reach for the image.. Maybe you are already in your dream body. I was in that stage and imagined myself running. My leg started moving . I thought my leg really moved so I snapped out of it
      Last edited by hellohihello; 02-05-2009 at 04:10 AM.
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      Sounds like you were close, also you have some really cool HI

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wikihan View Post
      A couple of days ago I tried my first WILD during a nap. I laid still for a couple of minutes and then my limbs were getting a little numb and started to tingle. After a couple of minutes of that my body vibrated and I started to get a little visuals, half of peoples heads in the way like when you watch a simple black & white picture for a minute and then close your eyes you see a negative of the picture. But after staying still for I don't know how long, that was all that happened, no transition into a dream. So I gave up. But how can I ascend further into a dream instead of just hovering in the stage with the tingling limbs and the minor visuals (I also felt as if my limbs were in different positions)?
      Well, you've managed to reach the HH which is a pretty decent step in the direction of a WILD. What had you done before this?
      Unfortunately, that ability to ascend further in is the difficult part of WILDing that is what most people get hung up on, myself included. Here are a bunch of WILD tutorials, the best advice I can give you (as a non-WILDer) is to just read as much as you can and to keep trying.
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=66238
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62769
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=40684
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=30783
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=15190
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=13497
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=9806
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=7469
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=6124
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=1886
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=5397

      i just hate seeing people give wrong advice that is confusing to the reader

      i have been to many sites that this happens on. not singling you out but i mention it when i see it cos it makes stuff confusing to new people
      For the two rudely bickering and then not following their own suggestions of not offering advice when you have no idea what you're talking about:

      A WBTB is simply awakening from your sleep, then going back to sleep. This can be done for any amount of time, there is no specific length that designates a WBTB, although 60min is suggested by LaBerge. This is by no means set in stone. It can be done two hours into sleeping and then be followed by 9 hours of sleep or happen 9.5 hours into sleep, last one minute, and then you wake up ten minutes later. All a WBTB is is getting up, spending some time thinking about lucid dreaming, and then going back to sleep.

      Often, the goal is to plan a WBTB around a REM period so that when you go to sleep, especially when attempting a WILD, you are hovering around a REM period.

      As two noobs with inaccurate information, please do not post such confusing material or descend someone else's thread into a debate about the inaccuracies of one anothers' opinions. PM it out, start a thread, or ask someone who can explain it to both of you.
      Last edited by Shift; 02-05-2009 at 06:18 AM.

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      nice welcome
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      Thanks for the reactions, seems like I've got a lot of reading to do.
      Also why is it ok to start a WILD when doing a nap, but not if you go to sleep for real?
      @ Shift: Where does the second part of your reaction come from, because I can't really connect it to this thread...
      What's the difference between dreaming that you're lucid and lucid dreaming?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wikihan View Post
      @ Shift: Where does the second part of your reaction come from, because I can't really connect it to this thread...
      A couple of members had started arguing over what a WBTB was and generally being rude to one another, while barely contributing anything but confusion itself. If you'd prefer, I can make them visible again but there are over ten responses of debate over what a WBTB is. I encourage the two of you who I am speaking of to post your advice, but without arguing about things.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      A couple of members had started arguing over what a WBTB was and generally being rude to one another, while barely contributing anything but confusion itself. If you'd prefer, I can make them visible again but there are over ten responses of debate over what a WBTB is. I encourage the two of you who I am speaking of to post your advice, but without arguing about things.
      Ah, now I get it, I see you also did put back a couple of comments. Thanks for keeping it ontopic
      What's the difference between dreaming that you're lucid and lucid dreaming?

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      damn you got really close to entering a dream, try to just be more patient and not give up once i almost had my first WILD last night but i gave up takes time to get the hang of it

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wikihan View Post
      A couple of days ago I tried my first WILD during a nap. I laid still for a couple of minutes and then my limbs were getting a little numb and started to tingle. After a couple of minutes of that my body vibrated and I started to get a little visuals, half of peoples heads in the way like when you watch a simple black & white picture for a minute and then close your eyes you see a negative of the picture. But after staying still for I don't know how long, that was all that happened, no transition into a dream. So I gave up. But how can I ascend further into a dream instead of just hovering in the stage with the tingling limbs and the minor visuals (I also felt as if my limbs were in different positions)?
      Obviously the main aspect is perseverance, as with all goals requiring work.
      Don't get too focused; this is of course a highly personal experience, but for me an over abundance of focus on activelyattempting to achieve WILD is often my downfall.
      Things will of course begin to feel a little bit less real, less physical, more flexible.. Draw from this a feeling of almost falling backwards, something like when you go fast on a rollercoaster. Maintain concentration, but make it not on yourself or your immediate surroundings, but on a scene of some sort.


      You will fail the first few times. Thats fine though. It sounds like already you have got close, and are moving the right way. The main things to remember are to not hold onto the feeling of being in the waking world, if that makes any sense to you
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      Determination. It'll pay off. Big time.

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