Thread: Reaching SP

You might wanna try a WILD technique that doesn't require SP.

Why are you drinking water? I thought the idea behind that was so that when you 'wake naturally at the end of a REM period' you have to piss. But then, most people want to WILD during a REM period, right after waking up from it. So following that logic, aren't you trying to WILD into stage 4 sleep?

I though it was the same xD! I mean if I get up right after a REM cycle, when I'll go back in my bed I'll defnitly be right before an other REM? Well I guess it's not with your answer! So I'll try to set up my alarm somewhere in during a REM.

And btw I've noticed 2 specific hours I wake up when I drink whate; 1:00 AM and 4:30 AM. So is it a good idea to set it up between these?

I always read on here that you wake up naturally after REM dreams. I'm not sure how accurate that is. But I suppose you can use that to assume when your average REM period ends and then schedule WBTBs during it.

Sleep goes like this:

Stage 1 -> Stage 2 -> Stage 3 -> Stage 4 -> Stage 5(REM) -> Stage 4 -> Stage 3 -> Stage 2 -> Stage 3 -> etc.

Originally Posted by Sora

And btw I've noticed 2 specific hours I wake up when I drink whate; 1:00 AM and 4:30 AM. So is it a good idea to set it up between these?

If I've understood it correctly, you'll wake up right after a REM period if you have a full bladder. I also think a standard REM period lasts 90 minutes, so perhaps it'd be a good idea to set an alarm at 3:00 AM?
I might be wrong though... I'm hardly a seasoned LDer.

Originally Posted by Sora

And btw I've noticed 2 specific hours I wake up when I drink whate; 1:00 AM and 4:30 AM. So is it a good idea to set it up between these?

It would be better that way I suppose, if you think that that time would be better for you, why not?

Well, I only had 1 WILD, and I guess I'm not in the position to say this at all . I just relaxed, I started with counting my breathing too, but I got too bored and these thoughts suddenly flew from nowhere. So I visualized a football game, and it became more and more realistic, until I got lucid. I didn't experience SP.

Do you focus on having SP? I tried that many times, and I always fail. But when I didn't focus on having SP, instead I just let the visuals flow by and focused on becoming lucid, that's when I succeeded .

Thanks for the relpies.

I'll try to set my alarm around 3:00 tonight and I'll give you some feedback. And I'm focusing on SP because I think it's the frist step before WILD...no? Ahah I still have so much to learn!! Anyway if I fail tonight I'll try to focus more on being lucid and not to have SP.

And btw I was wonderings if WILDs are easier to recall?...since it is self induced I think it should be.

According to the guide on Sleep Paralysis, it seems it's only one way into SP.

Try reading this:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=61525
It helped me out a lot. Good luck.
Oh - the grammer is a little tough to read through, but it's definately worth it!

^^^^ Wow, this will sure help me alot, I'll try this tonight for sure. And if the comment about grammar is for me...it's because I'm french xD! So I might do some mistake D=.

Anyway Thanks again it'll sure help me alot I think. And it sounds alot funnier than counting our breaths!

Originally Posted by Sora

^^^^ Wow, this will sure help me alot, I'll try this tonight for sure. And if the comment about grammar is for me...it's because I'm french xD! So I might do some mistake D=.

Anyway Thanks again it'll sure help me alot I think. And it sounds alot funnier than counting our breaths!

glad it helped! oh, and it wasn't your grammer (your's is actually pretty good), it was the grammer in the link i pasted.

nice avatar, by the way (can't wait for 358/2 days!)