Thread: Semi Lucid

Originally Posted by Mariano

people say: oh shit, here comes Mariano, everybody down!

yes, there are levels of lucidity.
for me there are only 4.

Non-Lucid = you don't know you are dreaming
Pre-Lucid = in the dream you say " oh yeah, this is a dream" (you get a moment of clarity, not lucidity) but you don't become lucid
Semi-Lucid = you become half-aware that you are dreaming, you know you are dreaming, but you are still in Auto-Pilot(doing things unconsciously like in a non-lucid), so we say that you know you are dreaming in a subconscious level
Lucid = you know you are dreaming, you are aware of it, and you are not in auto-pilot

very simple, as you can see

Originally Posted by slash112

Your "pre-lucid" is the exact same "level" of lucidity as non-lucid. You are not aware that you are dreaming.

and your "semi-lucid" is, as I read it, the exact same "level"of lucidity as being lucid. Control has fuck-all to do with lucidity.

For once, I agree with Slash.
Please stop posting your false information, there is no such thing as a 'false lucid', 'semi lucid', or anything else like that. Stop over complicating things.

Originally Posted by no-Name

For once, I agree with Slash.

wooohoooo!

nobody is complicating things, you just are completely blind.
pre-lucid means that you was near of becoming aware.
I NEVER taught about control.
it's not false information.

here we go again..

A pre-lucid dream is one in which the dreamer considers the question, "Am I asleep and dreaming?" The dreamer may or may not come to the correct conclusion. Such experiences are liable to occur to people who are deliberately cultivating lucid dreams, but may also occur spontaneously to those with no prior intention to achieve lucidity in dreams. (wikipedia)

Semi-Lucid Dream:
a dream in where you become aware that you are dreaming to a subconcious level, but you are not completely aware.
you will act in auto-pilot mode, like a non-lucid dream. this means: you will fly for example, unconsciously, or you will say "this is a lucid dream", again unconscously, but the most important thing is ....YOU STILL BEING UNCONSCIOUS....but the feeling of the dream is different, now that you are half-there. in other words, your mind struggle to become more aware, like in Real Life, but fails, and only gets to the middle of the path.

Lucid Dream: you aware that you are dreaming, you are complete conscious and you are not on auto-pilot anymore, you will be in the present moment.


for example, if you are preparing to stabilize after you become lucid...in a lucid dream, you will do it(if you remember of course)
but in a semi-lucid dream you won't even have the chance to remember, because you are not conscious yet.


it's not that hard.




The only problem with both you is that you never experienced this, so you can't understand it....but, it's not necessary to experience it.

dude, your "pre-lucid" thing is so stupid. If you ask yourself wether you are dreaming or not and come to the conclusion that you are not dreaming. that is called non-lucid. no need to re-categorize it.

And your "semi-lucid" thing, i noticed you used the words "on a subconscious level", well, I'm afraid that the mere fact that it isn't concious, means that is isn't lucid at all. If you do actually realise you are dreaming, you are concious.

so "semi-lucid" is also non-lucid, there is no reason to re-categorize that either.

semi-lucid is just to coin the fact that you are still non-lucid but thinking and believing you are lucid... you are unconscious.

For once, I agree with no-name.
There are not levels of lucidity. That doesn't even make sense.

Originally Posted by Mariano

nobody is complicating things, you just are completely blind.
pre-lucid means that you was near of becoming aware.
I NEVER taught about control.
it's not false information.

here we go again..

Semi-Lucid Dream:
a dream in where you become aware that you are dreaming to a subconcious level, but you are not completely aware.
you will act in auto-pilot mode, like a non-lucid dream. this means: you will fly for example, unconsciously, or you will say "this is a lucid dream", again unconscously, but the most important thing is ....YOU STILL BEING UNCONSCIOUS....but the feeling of the dream is different, now that you are half-there. in other words, your mind struggle to become more aware, like in Real Life, but fails, and only gets to the middle of the path.

...so you're saying you weren't aware? If you weren't uh, "consciously" aware that you dreaming, then you weren't lucid dreaming.

Wowie zowie

Originally Posted by Mariano

The only problem with both you is that you never experienced this, so you can't understand it....but, it's not necessary to experience it.

Well, I can't speak for no-name and Slash, but I have experienced this. It's called dreaming.

Originally Posted by Mariano

semi-lucid is just to coin the fact that you are still non-lucid but thinking and believing you are lucid... you are unconscious.

But if you are not concious, you cannot know you are dreaming. Knowing you are dreaming requires you to be concious... wait, or the other way round. I can't think properly right now, but that is the best I can explain.

The fact of the matter is you are either concious or not (lucid or not)

for example.
imagine you must smile and laugh, but you don't want to do it, so you will do it forced: that's semi-lucid

imagine you are really happy, and you start to laugh and smile, that's lucid.

one is real.
the other not.

Originally Posted by Mariano

for example.
imagine you must smile and laugh, but you don't want to do it, so you will do it forced: that's semi-lucid

imagine you are really happy, and you start to laugh and smile, that's lucid.

one is real.
the other not.

I'm sorry but it's just too late in the night for me to be decipher a pile of bullshit.

It just made no sense to me. But no matter what you say, you cannot shift what I believe to be true. In fact, this situation doesn't have much to do with truth, It is more to do with pointless categorizations of examples of normal dreams.

it's, when you get older you will understand.