Thread: intro: Experienced Lucid Dreamer with more to learn

Hey, Novise!

Sounds like you have some interesting experiences to share! I'm also new to the site and new to lucid dreaming, though certainly not new to the practice of recording and dissecting dreams.

I also believe some dreams come from outside our own psyche. In my case, I believe in a single deity that created all things, and that he communicates to us in dreams sometimes. Don't know where you stand as far as that goes, but it sounds like we're both open to the idea of something outside of ourselves.

Good to have you here. I look forward to your insights.

Welcome Novise! It sounds like you're pretty experienced! The tutorials should be able to help you with any other skills that you want to learn in dream. Ask someone if you can't find a specific skill you want to develop in the tutorials; someone here has probably done what you're asking about. As for the views of those here on Dream Views...we have a healthy mix. There are people here from both ends of the spectrum, from spiritualist dreamers to scientific dreamers, and then there are those of us who fall somewhere in the middle. Just look around, and you'll find people of all types. Most of us don't bite, so just ask around if you have any questions. It looks like you may want to visit the "Beyond Dreaming" section of the site. Discussions on OoBE's and other phenomena take place there. Again, Welcome!

Small Town Wizard - I was talking much along those lines in terms of creation of dreams yes, though not exclusively - as you seem to have guessed.

Kordan - thanks for the information. I fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum myself.

I try to be practical, and I guess one of the major reasons I try to stay keen on the "spiritual" perspectives is because I have had a few experiences that seem to operate totally outside of the basic notions and ideas of the REM/sleep stages/scientific model of dreams. But they were still dreams.

I look forward to seeing both of you around.

Originally Posted by Novise

Kordan - thanks for the information. I fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum myself.

I try to be practical, and I guess one of the major reasons I try to stay keen on the "spiritual" perspectives is because I have had a few experiences that seem to operate totally outside of the basic notions and ideas of the REM/sleep stages/scientific model of dreams. But they were still dreams.

Same here.

Originally Posted by Novise

I look forward to seeing both of you around.

Thanks, and the same to you as well!

Welcome to Dreamviews, Novise!

Normally I would direct you to the tutorial section, or ask you if you have any questions about dreaming, but it seems that you're way ahead of me there.

As far as seeing dreams in a more spiritual way, I can relate to you there quite a bit. Many people here feel the same, and others want to view it in a more scientific, black-and-white manner. Beyond Dreaming is more of a place for debate than discussion as it is, but if you stick around for a little while, I'll invite you into Deep Dreaming, which is more philosophical discussion with little debate, leaving more room for exploring different perspectives.

We're glad to have such an experienced dreamer here! You're more than welcome to post your dream journal entries in the dream journal forum where people can read and comment.

Thanks Naiya. I've been impressed by what I've seen so far. Some things in the tutorial like WILDs I had never heard of, but they ring true with me. I've come across some good explanations for things I previously thought were unexplained, so it's a bit of a shift for me.

I actually tried the jump and spin technique for clarity (er stability) last night! Spinning like a figure skater in the air. It did work, but I was well on my way to waking up by the time I did it. I'm already following tips I've read in the tutorials. It's probably going to be quite a change for me.

I've read some other's dream journal entries and I was quick to learn that they have done much more than me. I like them, they ring much more true than most "dream recounts" I have come across on the web. I want to read a few more tutorials and spend some time reading other's journals, get used to the lingo a little too. I want to incorporate these things before I really start adding to the discussion. And frankly it's really cool to see some honest dream journal entries, the likes of which I don't think I've really come across in much quantity ever.

One thing this site seems to have done is shut down the "super power" mentality when it comes to lucid dream ability, so people aren't in a hurry to try to prove something. That's a very good thing. I haven't seen much of the site overall, but that's the feeling I get right now.

The philosophy forum is one i'll get into definetly, once I've gotten accustomed to the way people talk about dreams around here. Seriously considering starting a dream journal on here as I read others, again once I get used to all this. It will probably be a bit like starting over, it seems.

Welcome. I yet to have my first lucid dream. When my friend told me about this site I was so excited. I hope you learn many new things!

Thanks Mancon. I have a friend who has never recalled going lucid before and I'll be telling about Dreamviews if he asks me about dreams again. Until now I never really had anywhere to point him to. My advice for you about your dreams and trying to get lucid: focus on your dream journalling. Also don't get down if you aren't getting lucid, focus on that recall. Wow, you really reminded me of some things, I need to take my own advice.

I'll be staying with your journal and commenting if I have anything I can help with.

Wow, it sounds like you've had some amazing dreams. Don't be scared off by the vocal skeptics in the community. There are many people whose experiences have led them to feel the same way you do about dreams. If you ever want to debate more 'far out' topics, you can check out the Beyond Dreaming forum:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...splay.php?f=19

If you venture in there, be prepared for some heavy hitting skeptics to try their best to beat you down.

We also have a semi-private forum called the Deep Dreaming Team:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...splay.php?f=61
It is an area where people can discuss more sensitive subjects without having to deal with the same old skeptic arguments over and over again. If you would like, send any of us staff member a PM for access.

I can't wait to hear more about your dreams and your personal tricks for becoming lucid

Thanks Robot_Butler looking forward to it. Will be checking out your journal soon. I started a journal on here I probably will talk about my history in it from time to time. The more scientific/skeptical view is something I am new to, I'm still soaking it in right now and it's really changing my view some. Not that I'm a stranger to the "It's all in your mind" School of thought, but I have never come across such good explanations for that particular perspective. However, the spiritual side to dream creation has always been a running theme in my past journals, and this is certain to come out again in my entries. So instead of trying to go back and bring up things that "made a lot of sense at the time," I'll probably just treat this as turning over a new leaf in my dreams and journalling and take it from here. I am sure I will get involved in these more philosophical and metaphysical issues like you've mentioned. Looking forward to checking out your dream journal.

I would definitely love to read some of your dreams Novise.