Thread: I could use some assistance...

Originally Posted by Kaylor

Alrighty. I've been on DV for awhile and I've kept a DJ and I've read forums and tutorials every week, but I'm not getting any lucidity results.

What method works the best? I'm not afraid of SP or Hallucinations or anything, I just want to get to work on actually getting results instead of oogling at other people's stories.



Thanks,
Kaylor

Fake it till ya make it bro. The subconscious can't tell the difference between what is imagined vicerally & what is really experienced. Above all else when you think about lucid dreaming whether its you or someone else feel good while you talk about it or rehearse it. Lastly, listen to your intuition/trust your gut

I know from experience. ;o)

just enjoy the nice dreams for now. it took me three whole months to get mine, but I was never once discouraged.

And MILD is the easiest technique.

Yeah, never fear! It takes some people a little longer than others. However, one of the best things you can do is just hang out here on DV (as in for about thirty minutes before bed, or something) and think about having lucids a lot. Do a lot of reality checks. Other than that, just keep up what you're doing. Good luck!

WBTB is quite often a reliable one, however it can be very inconvenient. I enjoy my sleep, so waking up isn't exactly what I want to do, but I discovered that I could still easily lucid dream putting very minimal effort into this technique. I don't even get out of bed, I write a few key words about what I just dreamed about in my dream journal, do a few reality checks, fall back asleep trying to focus on lucid dreaming (not too much though, enough that it's on my mind but not that I'm keeping myself awake) and then... voila! I'm suddenly asleep, dreaming, and lucid.

However, this was after doing the other basics - regular RCs, writing in my dream journal, getting enough sleep (which I should be doing anyway )

But basically... it takes a lot of trial and error. No one can really tell you the best technique, because you need to figure it out for yourself. Everyone gets different results from different techniques in a different amount of time.

one of the most effective methods of inducing lucidity is to snap out of non-lucid dreaming when you witness anything outlandish or abnormal.

by keeping up with your DJ you should start to recognize the dream-like experiences, and get to a point that you can wake up within a dream.

Try doing more, and using different methods.

How long have you been trying?

I haven't done anything but MILD. And it hasn't worked too well...

Thanks for encouragement guys.

Off topic: anyone know what happened to CarmineEternity?

I don't think he's really banned, cause it said that even right when he posted.

Again, off topic: well you can't make your title say banned unless you're really banned.

Originally Posted by Xedan

Off topic: anyone know what happened to CarmineEternity?

Originally Posted by Xedan

Again, off topic: well you can't make your title say banned unless you're really banned.

Xedan there is a off topic section or ask the Meta section, stop thread jacking


Back to OP and ontopic/

Just like dreaming techniques, some reality checks work perfectly for some people and awfully for others.
You need to change to a different technique sometimes, that is best suited for you.


Keep trying and best of luck to your success soon

Well on topic, if you are willing to learn and fail, you can try WILDing. Once you get it under control it can be very rewarding.

EDIT: and good job faking a ban, FifthElement. That 'a' is not a keyboard letter.

Thanks guys. I'll read up on WILDs and try it out.

Clever a...

Hi Kaylor

IMO, the best method is to pick a method that fits your lifestyle and then stick with it for as long as it takes. I believe that jumping from one technique to another actually makes things harder--when you think about it, you're trying to build up a habit or skill with one technique, but if you switch to another thing, then all that work has just been wasted.


I don't usually recommend WILD unless you've had a few DILDs first. WILD might seem to be easier on the surface, but in reality it still takes a lot of practice to work.

If you have been trying a certain thing for a long time and it doesn't seem to be helping, I suggest adding techniques, but never, ever, subtracting. For example, you have been doing MILD for several weeks, and you want to add RCing to that. It would compliment what you are already doing. You could even practice WILD on the side. But do yourself a favor and don't give up one thing for another, otehrwise you're never really giving your mind the chance to learn anything.

IMO, the single most important thing to success is being consistent. You're building up new habits and skills--the only thing that will ever help is practicing, and practicing consistently. That means if you do MILD, you do it every single night, even more than oncec a night if you wake up before morning. It can take a long time for your mind to internalize things, so don't get discouraged if you don't see results in the first days, weeks or even months. If you hold out and you can stay with it, then you will eventually be rewarded. And don't be surprised if LDs just start flooding in at that point.

Wow, thanks for your input! I will definitely continue to MILD.

But if I may ask... what is the difference between DILD and MILD?

Good question! They are very similar and they can overlap. DILD tends to focus more on RCing and using dream signs. MILD usually requires you to spend some time before going to sleep, basically incubating a lucid dream through autosuggestion or visualization. So they compliment each other well.

In simple terms, you can use mantras, subliminal messaging, or some other source to burn lucid dreaming into the brain when you MILD. Or at least that's how I interpret it.