Thread: Hello! I just found the site. I have been having Lucid dreams all my life &...

I just always have. I find it absolutely amazing that you guys are trying to induce sleep paralysis to get a lucid dream. Very interesting. Sleep paralysis for me has always been a horrifying and frightening experience. I enter it quite often (accidentally). Usually the experience is filled with being touched, prodded, hurt, or erotically stimulated against my will by some unknown entity that I always think is a demon. Anyway, I have been getting better at combating those. I had one last night, and researching it (yet again) led me here. When I am in sleep paralysis I often have the feeling of levitation or geting rotated around the bed, which is very wierd. I also experience numerous false awakenings during these dreams. I was actually able to reach out and choke one of the dream enties last night and punch the other one even though it was twisting my fingers. That was huge for me.

During normal dreams I am usually able to take control as soon as I realize I am dreaming (which I almost always know) and at least try to influence things. Sometimes I get my way and sometimes I don't. It will be interesting to try some of the stabilization techniques on the site. I hate when I am trying to get something to happen and the dream slips away. My favorite dreams are actually what I would call partly lucid, epic dreams. They are very long, dramatic, detailed and amazing adventure dreams where I just kind of go with the flow and fight monsters or save the world or realize something amazing. I make some decisions in the dreams but I am not really lucid. I always remember these almost completely, and I don't get them quite as often as I would like.

Anyway, I look forward to reading more on the site and picking up some helpful technics. Especially when I accidentally enter sleep paralysis. For me that is a terrible nightmare.

Something else that I think is kind of interesting; my son can control his dreams as well. When he was 5 or 6 he was having a lot of nightmares and I remember telling him that he could pick his dreams. That if he just realized he was dreaming he could control them. He didn't have any more nightmares after that that he couldn't make disappear. He told me he just dreamed about what he wanted to after that. He is 16 now. I think little kids can pick it up really easy, especially if they are naturally inclined.

Cool stories! Next time you are in SP, just think of it as a dream. You can control the hallucinations during sleep paralysis just like dreams. (An you aren't getting attacked by demons, it's just your brain screwing with you.)
BTW, we use sleep paralysis to induce lucid dreams because most of us here aren't naturals. I actually find sleep paralysis to be fun.

Originally Posted by YYNYM

Cool stories! Next time you are in SP, just think of it as a dream. You can control the hallucinations during sleep paralysis just like dreams. (An you aren't getting attacked by demons, it's just your brain screwing with you.)
BTW, we use sleep paralysis to induce lucid dreams because most of us here aren't naturals. I actually find sleep paralysis to be fun.

That's incorrect.

Being natural and inducing lucid dreams has nothing to do. I'm natural too and I've been lucid dreaming since I was a kid, without knowing, I was using MILDs (I wanted to dream with something so I though of it before going to be) However, not even a natural has lucids every single night, so induction techniques are always welcome.

And the OP probably was doing WILD accidentally, as I also felt sleep paralysis several times and I knew that after them, a dream were I would know it was a dream was coming.

Welcome to DV Marilwyn!!

Hey guys and thanks for the welcomes.

Actually, I do not experience lucid dreams after Sleep Paralysis at all. The sleep paralysis is the lucid dream so to speak. Never a good experience for me. I wake my self up once I stop false awakening and usually don't go back to sleep for awhile afterwards. It only leads to nightmares for me. I usually have lucid dreams by simply knowing I am dreaming while in a dream and going from there. I have never really tried to have one. I have them several times a week usually and just about every night when i am on the nicotine patch. I will try to use some of the visualization methods I think to induce one, but definitely not WILD. I will have to read up on them a bit more. For a long time I actually thought everyone dreamed like me and could take control. My husband has never had one.

Originally Posted by YYNYM

Cool stories! Next time you are in SP, just think of it as a dream. You can control the hallucinations during sleep paralysis just like dreams. (An you aren't getting attacked by demons, it's just your brain screwing with you.)
BTW, we use sleep paralysis to induce lucid dreams because most of us here aren't naturals. I actually find sleep paralysis to be fun.

It isn't that simple unfortunately. Hopefully you never experience the bad side of sleep paralysis because it all seems very very real. I have never experienced anything scarrier in my entire life. Nothing like screaming at the top of your lungs sure you are going to die, but being unable to move a muscle. To be sure that you are awake and re-awakening over and over again... Also the 'halucinations' not only have audio and olfactory senses, but they can cause very real physical pain and pleasure. Both are intense and frightening. It has taken me 15 years to get enough control to do anything but scream in my head. Luckily these don't happen every night or even every week or I would probably be insane by now, LOL.

No WILD but you made a lot of MILDs without knowing. As when I was a kid, I saw something cool I wanted, I looked forward to have it in my dreams.

That post could've been written by me, so spot on I found this site just a few days ago. Up until then I've been having tons of lucids aswell since childhood. SP have been tormenting me like hell, and since I didnt know what it was, or the cause of it, it was simply terrifying. Tho on later years lucid dreams became so, well, normal that they almost stopped happening, went from lucid dreams to semi lucids, where I know Im dreaming but going along with it. Epic dreams where u know ur dreaming can be fun to, its like playing a game, following the story but u CAN cheat if u want!

Interesting Genin. I haven't found any people in my daily life that have the SP nightmares, although through research online I see that a lot of people have them. They usuall seem to have several themes for people; demons, shadow people, or alien abduction senarios. Even though I know what they are now they are still terrifying. It has taken me years to get the little bit of progress with them that I have. I never have nightmares other than the SP terrors. What generally happens in yours?

Epic dreams where u know ur dreaming can be fun to, its like playing a game, following the story but u CAN cheat if u want!

I love this! I didn't know how to put this but I laugh every time I read/think of this. Its just such a cool and great thing.

-CV

Originally Posted by ClearView

I love this! I didn't know how to put this but I laugh every time I read/think of this. Its just such a cool and great thing.

-CV

I know those are the best!

Originally Posted by ClearView

I love this! I didn't know how to put this but I laugh every time I read/think of this. Its just such a cool and great thing.

-CV

Indeed

Well Marilwyn, most of the times I was simply paralyzed, couldnt move a muscle which scared me. Theres only been a few occations when I saw "things" in my room while being paralyzed. But now when I know the reason for it and how it works I'm not afraid of it anymore Now I simply use it to induce lucids =D To easily fall in SP is a gift in disguise! I mean, being 10 years old, for example, and getting paralyzed, not being able to move a muscle apart from perhaps your eyes for 15 sec or more and not knowing why it happens or if its dangerous can be reaally terrifying.

Well, if being paralyzed and frightened was all it was then I could probably embrace it a bit easier and learn to appreciate it. I read on another site that analyzed sleep paralysis, that less than 5% of people who experienced SP in their lives actually felt more than just a presence in the room and had some kind of painful or other type of interaction with the presences. Not everyone even feels the presence. Since I fall into that other unlucky group, I just do my best not to have SP. I can lucid dream easily enough without it. Plus, besides the lucid dreams/nightmares that come with SP for me are always in my bed room. I would much rather be doing something fun in fantasy dream land. Hopefully, one day I can be free of it entirely. I have an interesting book on it called - The Terror That Comes in the Night. It helped me a little bit.

Try to use a blindfold? And simply tro ty "fall" into a dream "through" your bed when SP is coming. When focusing on falling into a dream I dont even sense the paralyzing part more than perhaps a drumming/vibrating/pulsating noice in my head. Since Im not trying to move anything until Im sure im in SP, and when I then slowly start to move its not my body but my "dream" body moving. Plus getting into SP while laying on my side makes me feel more "safe" then on my back. =)

Next time it happens I will try that. I have never had SP on my side before. I usually sleep on my side just for that reason. When I took Vicodin for pain I would fall into SP very easily and quickly as soon as I went to bed. I don't like to take that stuff anymore because I realized it caused me to SP, but I do have some left over. Maybe I will get brave enough to do it on purpose sometime. Otherwise, I don't know when it is coming so it would be hard to prepare. My episode the other night lasted quite awhile in real time. It was around 30 minutes before I got control and finally woke out of it. I knew the approximate time because my husband got up to get ready for work when I went to sleep. He came in and kissed me good-bye 30 minutes later and I had just come out of it.

Wow this is extremely similar to my story. For me it started when I was about 4 and it also was a demon. As a little kid I called the thing Peter in the Heater. He looked like a burnt charred stick thingy that was shaped like the letter Y. Like a stick with mandible pinchers on the end. He would come out of the heat register in the floor and talk to me or grab me with his pinchers. That fear that i felt was a very particular feeling. As I got older the form changed and I started having speep paralysis. That very distinct fear was always the common element though out. Also for me there was always a deafening noise and the fear would set in before the thing would actually appear. When I was in my 20's I had a few confrontations with the thing. And like you I would win some and loose some. For me it was all about managing fear. I know what you mean when you say there's nothing more terrifying. Unless you have experienced it you just don't know. Eventually I decided to stop running and I would fall to sleep with the idea of seeking a confrontation with the thing. After a few times doing that I was able to stand toe to toe with it with out any fear and it hasn't come back for many years now. Keep fighting, be Brave! it feeds on your fear. And despite how much pain it inflicts, you will always wake up. Eventually you will chase it not the other way around.

Thanks GruntStump.

Keep us posted on what happens.