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      Yesterday(March 26th) I completely obliterated someone's elbow and wrist, leaving him in extreme and excruciating pain.

      I'm a trained fighter; self-taught, but recognized, Jeet Kune Do. I am a legal weapon, and can cause major damage to someone, despite my skinny and seemingly weak build.

      Now, I won't got into major details on why, as that just wouldn't be right. But, long story short, over the past year, there was someone who we used to be friends with. We'll call him John. Over the year, we've had growing problems with him. At first it started with simple bullshit. Small, trivial things that we just shrugged off and said whatever to. He took it up a notch. He started saying he had sex with a friend of ours, and did this constantly saying he had with other friends of ours as well. He said this about 3 or 4 girls, and they were pissed. As were we. We settled it peacefully though, with words. We wanted to crack him one, we should've, but no, we used our words. We excluded him from us, isolated him away, and he got in major shit from the school.

      We gradually decided to let him back in with us, figuring he was smart enough to learn his lesson. Turn out he had made more enemies, by pulling the same crap with other girls, just more detail. Anyway, a large number of people wanted to fight him, but me and a few others stepped in, and helped him avoid getting a beating, by once again coming to a peaceful solution.

      Then he met another friend of ours. We learnt that this guy is a clever, and manipulative bastard. He knows how to mess with girls heads, and how to manipulate their feelings. And this he did. He managed to get one of our friends to fall for him, but she realized he was an idiot and fought it. One day they shared a kiss, and that sealed the deal. She became a target. After that kiss, over time he came to the point where he was pretty much stalking her. He'd always be trying to get with her, always trying to get into her pants ect.

      He got a girlfriend though eventually, and we thought that would bring this to an end. It only intensified further. He constantly still tried to get with our friend, and his girlfriend was oblivious to this. Finally, it came to the point where the other day, he forced himself on her. Shes always resisted him and been unwilling to be with him, but the other day he forced himself on her, groping her, going up her skirt, and hurting her. He would've gone even further, had she not resisted.

      We told her to go to the police, she refused due to feelings of another incident only months past. But this taught us something, words were of no help. He had crossed the line before, and was in deserving of a beating, but all we did was let him go further, deeper, and it came to this.

      Today, I finally gave him what he deserved. He spotted me, thinking I didn't see him, he tried to avoid me. I would've left it well enough alone for another day, deal with him during school, humiliate him. But he decided to call me out, and justify what he had done. With phrases like "Violence solves nothing" "Believe me, It wont happen again" and "Be fair." The final one especially pissed me off, and my hate for him was only fueled more.

      I should mention that we met with him outside, off school grounds, and inadvertly. Walking home from school, on the route I take, there is a 4 lane road. Sidewalks on either end. Walking on the right hand side. On the left there is a large forest, on the area I was at on the right, there is a small forest/brush/bush area, with a creek running through the center, which passes under the road through one of those pipes. Its about 15-20 feet (15 is more accurate I think) down, and there is a guard rail. A path also goes through there that many students use to go to and from school. Thats where we met with him.

      After what he had said, I was angered. I remembered everything he had done, and how far he had gone this time. First a punch to the skull, followed by a kick to the chin. Both staggering him and knocking him back slightly. He regains his balance, takes a right hook swing at me, and misses. I grab his wrist midpunch, and bend it irregularly, breaking it, followed by turning his arm so his elbow is easily accessible, and with all my strength and power, an open palm right to the elbow, and his arm bends in a way it should not.

      I toss him behind me, and kick him a few more times, then knock him over the guardrail, and into the shallow water below. With that, I leave him there, not caring what he does or where he goes.

      It was absolutely effortless. But I must ask, when is fighting right? Did I do the right thing?

      Please note I have left out many, many details for the protection of the individuals.
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      Yesterday(March 26th) I completely obliterated someone's elbow and wrist, leaving him in extreme and excruciating pain.[/b]
      That's all I read. You did the right thing.

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      I'm of the opinion physical violence should only be used to counter physical violence. I cannot really blame you though for your actions. It sounds like the guy deserved to be roughed up a little bit. However, what will happen when he recovers, what are the consequences? I doubt this is over.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Artelis View Post
      That's all I read. You did the right thing.[/b]
      Wow, you are making progress, mostly you don't even read a single sentence before making a post that is always meant to be funny.

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      Anyhow, ExoByte: I don't know or it was the Best thing to do, but it certainly was acceptable. Violence isn't a good solution most of the time, but then again, you have to break some eggs to make an omelet, lets hope he learns.

      I doubt he did. But maybe he will refrain from rape. Lets hope so.

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      It sounds like it was fun, so I would say it was the right thing.

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      I understand what led up to your confrontation but only time will tell if this will hurt you as much as it hurt him (i.e., police charges filed, lawsuit for damages.. pain and suffering, etc.).

      I wish you luck.

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      Yeah, it will probably cause problems for you, as he will probably want to take revenge for it.

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      To be honest I think you took it a bit far, but then again, I don't know him. I hope this doesn't cause problems for you, but I doubt he's just going to leave it. Like most people, he'll probably want revenge. I hope the girl's OK though.

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      Well, I think you took it a little too far. The guy deserved to ahve a little sense beat into hit, not to be beaten senseless.

      He could charge you for assault too =/ And win easily. You mentioned that he made it clear that he didn't want a violent confrontation. If you attack a person who has made it clear they don't wish to fight, thats bad news.

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      Actually, to that we made it clear we didn't want violence. I mentioned his statements as senses of irony. He sexually assaults a friend, then speaks of fairness? Of us trusting him? Of violence solving nothing, when we've tried nothing but talk until the point where he does this.

      Just my rebuttal to that.
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      Hmm.
      Whether it was the right thing to do or not, objectively, I really can't say. I think you might have taken it a bit far, breaking his bones (just a good ass-whooping is usually enough to humble someone like that) but, in all fairness, you did try more diplomatic solutions first, that obviously weren't working.

      All I can say is, (regardless of whether or not it was the "right" thing to do) the guy had it coming to him, BUT just be ready for whatever blowback comes from it.
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      I cant blame you.

      I also would have tried not to break any bones besides his nose due to police attention.

      But hey, i hope you get off for it nice job BTW.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Wow, you are making progress, mostly you don't even read a single sentence before making a post that is always meant to be funny. [/b]
      And I love how you always manage to quote every one of my posts and say something bad about it. I'm not upset or anything, it gives me something to chuckle at throughout the day.

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      I say yes, it was. The fucker tried to rape someone. That's one of the lowest things someone can do, in my book, and he deserved a lot more than a shattered arm.

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      You did what your anger made you. Its acceptable, but i believe blackmail is more usefull. Ur a lletath weapon, now im scared of you and the orange. can u protect me from the evil orange? it wants to kill me.

      sorry thts my other half

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      ok so yeah u hurt him, but u just punished him for what hes done over the time. if u go to court, youd prob win, due to so many victims of the bully.

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      Sounds like a total jerk

      ...Tossing him into the river, though, made me think of "dumping the body"

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      Quote Originally Posted by MSG View Post
      Sounds like a total jerk

      ...Tossing him into the river, though, made me think of "dumping the body"[/b]
      Yeah, same =/

      Makes it almost sound like a mob hit... lol

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      Damn!!! You definitely beat the sheiot out of him! and yes, you did the right thing. all future rapists need to be beat into oblivion before they become serial killers. GOOD JOB!! EXOBRUCE LEE

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      Personally, though I do believe that what you did was certainly justified, I definitely would not have broken any bones, for many reasons. However, having some, though admittedly limited, knowledge of martial arts myself (my uncle is a third degree black belt in Okinawan Kempo, and has taught me a small bit), I do realize that a good part of it was most likely reflex, fueled by the heat of the moment and the knowledge of his prior actions.

      It would have perhaps been better to just, when you caught his wrist, apply a simple wrist/arm lock with enough pressure to drop him to the ground, and subsequently held it long enough, and with enough force, to demonstrate to him that you would have no difficulty whatsoever breaking his bones. Since there was (and I'm assuming on this, correct me if I'm wrong here) no-one else present, he wouldn't be humiliated in front of his peers, and so would not (hopefully) feel the need to retaliate in kind (humiliation, increasing his attacks as a way of getting back at you for the humiliation, etc), and instead would, again hopefully, take it as intended; that you were in fact deadly serious and that there might actually be consequences to his actions if he pursued his present course of action further.

      Telling him as much, in the process, would, of course, have been beneficial as well.

      By actually crossing the line and breaking bones, though, you will have, as has been said in the posts above, given him something to use against you, as well as the time to think on his revenge as his arm heals. If you (not to mention your friends) are lucky, he will instead have the common sense to see that what he got was well-deserved, but that is rarely the case with these types. On the bright side, however (from a certain point of view; not his I'm sure) he will have a constant, if subconscious, reminder of why not to mess with your friends.

      In short, though it was indeed deserved, it will more than likely hurt you more than him in the long run. But the very fact that you felt enough reservations/remorse about the event to post here asking our opinions shows that you have the right mindset on this.

      Anyway, good luck, and I dearly hope that he takes it to heart and sees it as a turning point rather than as a reason to hate you/seek revenge. You know him, so you have a better idea of how he will react.

      I hope this helped, in however small a way.

      (Please note: the preceding was just my take on things, nothing more)

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      I think it was wrong. You acted out of hatred, and that must be a bad thing.
      1) It may cause you trouble with the law
      2) It may cause you fear of possible trouble with the law, fear of lawsuits, fear of paying compensations.
      3) It may cause him to revenge and hurt you or your friends.
      4) It may very well increse his hatered, which he will probably take out on someone else: future girls he meet that you don't know and can't protect, his future kids etc.
      5) It may cause you guilt ( Maybe )

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      TIP: If he will confront you, be careful of what you say about the incident, because he may try to tape it
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      You know, did you HAVE to break his arm? You better could have beat him up in a -equally painful- way that did Not cause him serious damage and a scar he now has to make a story up about how he got beat up by 25 muggers.

      Point being: Kicking him in the nuts would have worked better. ^__^

      Any troubles yet? His parents freaking out, or cops at your door?
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      Although it seems that the guy deserved what he got, i think you took it a little too far. A simple ass whooping or something just as painful would have worked. Now the guy has a broken elbow and wrist. This may cause him to retaliate and he might come at you more prepared the next time. He could also charge you with assault and that's never good.

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      I haven't had any trouble yet no, or questions about it; other then from curious peers. I've talked to a cop though, but hes a friend of mine, which kinda leaves him torn between what he wants to do, and what hes supposed to do. However, hes chose to act like I haven't told him anything, to respect the wishes of my friend, who doesn't want the police to know. So, he knows as a friend, not as an officer of the law.
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      yikes this is a tough one... he did deserve a beating and i know that you probably didnt mean to break his bones so much. I don't do martialarts but my friend is a black belt in taekwondo and i know how easy it is for him to break bones( accidenly broke another friends arm my showing him a move, lmao). So yeah maybe you were anrgy and since its so easy for you, you kinda forget the damage you can cause, i mean you want to cause damage, but you forget that broken bones is alot of damage.

      On the other hand... he has alot of anger now, he isn't going to take that out on you and probably none of your friends. But he may take this out on other girls. Unfortunatly a guy like that is gonna probably be a rapist anyway. Either he did rape your friend eventually and so got practice and would want to do it more. Or you beat him and he has anger which he'll take out on other poor girls.

      Really you can't stop him, but i think the beating was probably the better thing to do, hopefully the huge pain will come to him every time he thinks of hurting anyone.
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