Thread: the guys rules

Originally Posted by Daeva

Two woman on someone's bed, naked, when he comes in IS fantasy. It's not human nature for two girls to strip down and 'present' themselves for a guy.

it's bisexual womans nature and things like this really happen.

Originally Posted by ranma187

it's bisexual womans nature and things like this really happen.

No, I doubt it's in a bisexual woman's nature to strip down with another woman and present herself to a man. Just because someone is bisexual doesn't mean they are easy or polygamist.

now now daeva. don't put words in my mouth. I never said bisexual women or threesomes are easy. But there are guys, who are just natural at sleeping with women. These women aren't easy or anything, it's just the result of chemistry and peoples personal respect for discreetness. The discreetness is there to maintain the social status quo.

What these guys do is meet a girl at a club. If the chemistry is right, they are open to talk about their sexuality in a non judgemental way. and then once it is established the woman is bisexual and they are open to threesomes. they next find another woman or a friend of hers that has the same chemistry going on. and the rest is logistics. Now I'm not being sexist. I'm not trying to degrade women in anyway. The matter of fact is this: these kinds of people exist, there is nothing wrong with them, it is just who they are, period. If you go to a fetish club or get out and talk to people at clubs with enough social value, over a period of time you will soon find out
these things are true.

Being too exhausted to really talk about my formal opinion on the subject, I'd just like to say to the nay-sayers to this thread who think it has "degraded" that it has not done so, it has simply changed. In fact, I would say it has improved. Internet forums are supposed to change discussions, and I would say that a talk about feminism, gender stereotypes (though I must say this is less a thread about attempting to destroy stereotypes and more of everybody presenting their own often horribly misconstrued sexual stereotype and generalizations in opposition to those of somebody else. Merlock had it about right), and equal rights between men and women is a much more apt topic for intelligent discussion than simply saying "Ha, yes, that is amusing in the essential notion of man's blatent straightforwardness and combativeness toward the emotional and often rather cryptic ideal of their feminine counterpart!"

But no matter.

Continue.

Originally Posted by wasup

Being too exhausted to really talk about my formal opinion on the subject, I'd just like to say to the nay-sayers to this thread who think it has "degraded" that it has not done so, it has simply changed. In fact, I would say it has improved. Internet forums are supposed to change discussions, and I would say that a talk about feminism, gender stereotypes (though I must say this is less a thread about attempting to destroy stereotypes and more of everybody presenting their own often horribly misconstrued sexual stereotype and generalizations in opposition to those of somebody else. Merlock had it about right), and equal rights between men and women is a much more apt topic for intelligent discussion than simply saying "Ha, yes, that is amusing in the essential notion of man's blatent straightforwardness and combativeness toward the emotional and often rather cryptic ideal of their feminine counterpart!"

But no matter.

Continue.

I agree. People should talk about these issues instead of treating it like a secret society, which just make things worse for gender equality.

Originally Posted by ranma187

now now daeva. don't put words in my mouth. I never said bisexual women or threesomes are easy. But there are guys, who are just natural at sleeping with women. These women aren't easy or anything, it's just the result of chemistry and peoples personal respect for discreetness. The discreetness is there to maintain the social status quo.

If it is in the girl's nature to do as you say, why would a man have to be a natural at sleeping with women? He could just walk into a room and viola! Two bisexual girls naked on his bed, just for him. It's in their nature after all, right? They just have to pick out a guy and sneak into his room.

Originally Posted by ranma187

What these guys do is meet a girl at a club. If the chemistry is right, they are open to talk about their sexuality in a non judgemental way. and then once it is established the woman is bisexual and they are open to threesomes. they next find another woman or a friend of hers that has the same chemistry going on. and the rest is logistics. Now I'm not being sexist. I'm not trying to degrade women in anyway. The matter of fact is this: these kinds of people exist, there is nothing wrong with them, it is just who they are, period. If you go to a fetish club or get out and talk to people at clubs with enough social value, over a period of time you will soon find out these things are true.

Why thank you for explaining this elaborate, mystical process that was completely over my head. I didn't say that girls like that don't exist, I didn't say that things like that DON'T happen, I just said it's not in one's nature to do it. It's a conscious decision one makes. Though the way you end that paragraph, you act like 'those kind of people' are really rare and only pop up in clubs, or fetish clubs.

Originally Posted by Daeva

If it is in the girl's nature to do as you say, why would a man have to be a natural at sleeping with women? He could just walk into a room and viola! Two bisexual girls naked on his bed, just for him. It's in their nature after all, right? They just have to pick out a guy and sneak into his room.



Why thank you for explaining this elaborate, mystical process that was completely over my head. I didn't say that girls like that don't exist, I didn't say that things like that DON'T happen, I just said it's not in one's nature to do it. It's a conscious decision one makes. Though the way you end that paragraph, you act like 'those kind of people' are really rare and only pop up in clubs, or fetish clubs.

of course it doesn't just happen. I described the exact process in which some people accomplish this goal. Its not mystical. Sure some conciousness is involved. but attraction is not a controlled process. Does a gay guy choose to be attracted to guys? does any woman, choose to be attracted a certain guy? if a guy is driving in his car does he choose to look at some pretty woman walking down the street? NO! attraction isn't a choice, it is a biological process that takes over our bodies long enough to ensure the survival of the human race PERIOD. What about that race of monkeys that have gigantic orgies? do they logically choose to do that?

some people are naturally more relationship oriented or naturally more promiscuos oriented. some people are naturally both. There is nothing mystical about it. but the reason why things like gender innequality goes on is because people treat it as a rare mystical thing.

I don't mean women find a guy they sneak into their room. The guy with the right chemistry comes along. and leads the interaction into a threesome. it is a process, it's not mystical.

Originally Posted by ranma187

I agree. People should talk about these issues instead of treating it like a secret society, which just make things worse for gender equality.

Who is treating it like a secret society?

Originally Posted by ranma187

it is a biological process that takes over our bodies long enough to ensure the survival of the human race PERIOD.

I don't know what that guy who gives all the lectures says, but you should be careful when making a huge claim like that. This question of why people are attracted to certain others is extremely complex, and scientists are still having heated arguments over it.

Originally Posted by Daeva

Why thank you for explaining this elaborate, mystical process that was completely over my head.

/internet sarcasm

In case you didn't notice.

I haven't the inclination to go 'round and 'round about something where we aren't seeing eye to eye due to mis-perceptions in what the other is saying, or in some cases an 'adjusting of the argument.' Though, being more clear on what you are saying from the get-go might help out some.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Who is treating it like a secret society?




I don't know what that guy who gives all the lectures says, but you should be careful when making a huge claim like that. This question of why people are attracted to certain others is extremely complex, and scientists are still having heated arguments over it.

well it could be a mixture of both. None of my Gf's were overly hot. I didn't choose to be with them based on superficial reasons. It is just a subtle thing that says "hey she's the girl" sure she has sexy qualities but that's not the reason why i choose to be with that person.

what I mean by secret society: The behavior of people who are sexually active tend to deny and ridicule people who aren't sexually active, that this kind of sexual behavior goes on. It's just a subtle thing notice with certain people.

It's just a satirical metaphor. People who aren't "in" the secret society are mainly sexually frustrated males. and because they are so frustrated, and don't know how to meet and connect with people on a sexual, and intimate or long term level, they develop Anti socialness, some turn to acts of violence to express themselves, some are just "creepy" the rest of their lives, and worse some commit suicide. some of their acts influence gender inequality, especially if they hold positions of political or religious power.and to the few who might get a gf, and then get cheated on or lied to, further adds to this complex.

However if you take these people and educate them properly about how to have relationships with people. How to go for what they want. you would eliminate a lot of the social problems we have in society today. and for the rare few who just do not get it, well i guess they get left out.