Things are heating up in the middle east.

[Man of Shred]

source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...hepalestinians Efforts to persuade Iran to freeze its programme of uranium enrichment are entering a dangerous new phase. Viewed from Tehran, the west is playing a classic game of good cop, bad cop. The good cop, the EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, tells them that a package of incentives is still on the table if they halt enrichment. The bad cop, Israel, sends 100 fighter planes 870 miles into the eastern Mediterranean (the distance between Israel and Iran's main enrichment plant at Natanz) for an exercise designed to show military readiness for a long-range attack. Not only warplanes are deployed by Israel. Well-informed analysts are being dispatched to refine the warnings from Israeli ministers about Iran's alleged covert nuclear bomb programme. The refinements are these: that Syria was planning to supply Iran with spent nuclear fuel from al-Kibar, the site Israel bombed in September; that discrepancies found in the amount of fissile material North Korea (Syria's adviser in the construction of al-Kibar) declared and the amount it could have produced, drastically alter intelligence calculations of how soon Iran could get enough material to make a nuclear bomb; that the point of no-return in Tehran's bomb programme is now 2010; and that, yes, there would be regional consequences to a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, but that these would be the lesser of two evils. Even if an Israeli PM was only 70% certain of the reliability of this intelligence, it would be enough to persuade him or her to press the button. These claims are contentious, not least in Washington's intelligence circles. But the Israeli message is clear: if you are not prepared to act, we will and soon. Iran's parliamentary speaker, and its former nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, responded yesterday with the obvious: a strike on Iranian nuclear facilities would create a "fait accompli" for an Iranian bomb programme. In other words, a 70% possibility of a covert nuclear programme would become overnight a 100% probability that Iran would develop the bomb. Israel would buy time by destroying Natanz and other sites, but not enough to forestall the eventual outcome. Any US president would think long and hard about the power of Iran's revolutionary guards to undo the tenuous progress achieved in Iraq, for which he, as commander in chief, has paid with the lives of 4,106 of his troops. There is also Afghanistan and the Strait of Hormuz through which 90% of Gulf oil passes. And that is before you even get to Hizbullah's long-range rockets. A ball of fire, the phrase of Mohamed El Baradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, would not even begin to describe the fallout from an Israeli attack. Is it me or do these threats sound scary?

[psychology student]

They sound crazy, and scary.

[Man of Shred]

Run to the hills!!! run for your life!!!!

[Sornaensis]

If we're lucky a nuclear holocaust they start kills them and their silly ideas off.

[Man of Shred]

If we're lucky a nuclear holocaust they start kills them and their silly ideas off. Your an idiot seis, This could escalate to much worse for Us as well. the US is behind Isreal. therefore the US may be a target.

[Kushna Mufeed]

HOLY SHIT! This is bad bad news. I'm going to leave for Syria in two weeks. For a month. Pray that things stay peaceful until August 10. I think I wanna cancel my flight now.

[Sornaensis]

Your an idiot seis, This could escalate to much worse for Us as well. the US is behind Isreal. therefore the US may be a target. If I'm an idiot, then God help you. (Catch the pun?) Anything could go bad. This is just the newer edition of the bullshit that's been going on for 16 or so years. That's not including the totally inane religious zealotus mumbo crappo that's been plaguing the region for millenia.

[Universal Mind]

Iran cannot have nukes. People can do their protesting in the streets and stop traffic and act cute about getting arrested for protesting and act self-righteous while receiving Oscar and Grammy awards and act like they are so above war and make posters of Bush making gorilla faces and bitch about oil talk about how Cheney is like Darth Vader and blah blah blah all day. Fuck everything. Iran with nukes is something that can never be allowed to happen. Iran cannot have nukes. Whatever it takes to stop it from happening is going to have to happen. This is reality that we cannot afford to play silly VH1 fashion show games with. Islamofascist suicide terrorists with nukes can never become a reality. Never.

[ChrissyMaria]

What ever happens, it won't be good. Trust me on that one, enjoy yourselves now before things turn sour, im not kidding either. EDIT: Also, UM I highly doubt Iran will build nukes if left alone by us, the supreme ruler of Iran stated himself that building a nuclear weapon is anti-islamic, its pretty much against his beliefs, and HE is the real leader, not that skinny little punk they call a president, that guy is just a loudmouth idiot with no walk, just talk. Attacking them, would piss them off, and then they would build a bomb, what other choice do they have? they are being harrassed by the west blatantly, their government was overthrown in 1953 by the west, and we keep busting their balls all the time, its no mystery as to why they hate us. It's this damn country's policies who get us into these messes to begin with. If Eisenhower stuck his big fat nose elsewhere then iran in 1953, we wouldn't have this fucking problem honestly, if we didnt stick saddam into power, iraq wouldn't be at war right now with us, WE the United States, create problems for the future, so that the military industrial complex can make more money, thats the truth.

[Universal Mind]

What ever happens, it won't be good. Trust me on that one, enjoy yourselves now before things turn sour, im not kidding either. EDIT: Also, UM I highly doubt Iran will build nukes if left alone by us, the supreme ruler of Iran stated himself that building a nuclear weapon is anti-islamic, its pretty much against his beliefs, and HE is the real leader, not that skinny little punk they call a president, that guy is just a loudmouth idiot with no walk, just talk. Attacking them, would piss them off, and then they would build a bomb, what other choice do they have? they are being harrassed by the west blatantly, their government was overthrown in 1953 by the west, and we keep busting their balls all the time, its no mystery as to why they hate us. It's this damn country's policies who get us into these messes to begin with. If Eisenhower stuck his big fat nose elsewhere then iran in 1953, we wouldn't have this fucking problem honestly, if we didnt stick saddam into power, iraq wouldn't be at war right now with us, WE the United States, create problems for the future, so that the military industrial complex can make more money, thats the truth. We keep busting their balls because they keep training terrorists, killing their citizens for ridiculous reasons, working on nukes, and lying about it. They are not even close to innocent. We are not going to go to war with them unless they get close enough to having nukes.

[ChrissyMaria]

EDIT: UM, it's nothing personal I hope you understand hun, I'm just very very passionate about what im saying as you can see, well im passionate about everything lol...Lets not fight okay? No, you got it backwards, they are not building nukes first off, and if they do build a nuke, its because we pushed them into it. Also, where is this proof of nukes being built? there is no proof because it came out of the israeli prime ministers lying asshole. They train terrorists because we push them around, if we never even set foot on arabian soil EVER terrorists would not care about us, but its too late because weve been pissing them off for way too long and a nuke up our ass is long overdue, we have been irresponsible as a country, meddling in the affairs of other nations that don't concern us. Ever read the constitution or anything that the founding fathers wrote? They said to never get entangled into alliances, NEVER allow a central bank (fed reserve) to control the money, never meddle in the affairs of other nations, remain neutral and just trade. But what do we do? we make alliances with everyone, we have a central bank inflating the currency weakening YOURs and MY dollar purchasing power by the day, we stick our stupid nose in everyones business, and were trading with less and less nations, and we sure as hell are not neutral. Now tell me, has America De-Railed from its original intent? YES Is America Headed toward distaster and total collapse? YES Wether you realise it or not, this country has its days numbered, thanks to its insane foreign policy, when an attack happens, don't be suprised because we had it coming, you can thank eisenhower, nixon, lbj, reagan, bush, clinton and bush for all of this hate they have for us, thank them.

[Universal Mind]

EDIT: UM, it's nothing personal I hope you understand hun, I'm just very very passionate about what im saying as you can see, well im passionate about everything lol...Lets not fight okay? No, you got it backwards, they are not building nukes first off, and if they do build a nuke, its because we pushed them into it. Also, where is this proof of nukes being built? there is no proof because it came out of the israeli prime ministers lying asshole. I am not saying they are already building nukes. I am saying they are trying to get together the materials and facilities for nuclear power. They even admit it, but they claim it is for electricity. We cannot allow that. They would use it for nuclear weapons. Do you know about their jihadist policies? They are not training nuts to blow themselves up in cafes because they think it will make the United States act better. They are jihadists. They think Allah wants them to kill infidels, infidels like you. I told you about how they kill (That is.... KILL) people for homosexual acts. That means that they think you should be dead. They think we are unholy for not killing you. That should tell you what kind of government we are dealing with. They are not that way because we push them to it. They are that way because they are crazy religious fruit cakes. We have to deal with this problem, not just in terms of Iran. Did you ever read the answer to Q2 of Bin Laden's letter to America? Make sure you do. It illustrates the general mentality of Islamofascism. We have to deal with the Middle East. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver Vividly visualize the Iranian government getting nukes into the hands of that group or a similar one. Think really hard about that for a long time in as vivid detail as you can. It is something that can never happen.

[Sornaensis]

What a dick. Let's kill the fuckers. That'll settle it, no?

[ChrissyMaria]

You have good points, but your missing the points I made, its okay though because I know your intent, you want us to stay safe as a nation. And thats a brave thing. I think its an abomination that any homosexual be executed in any country, but let me ask you this...If the United States government started executing bis/gays...etc, would anyone in the international community do a thing? (I know this would NEVER happen but, its a tricky question)

[Universal Mind]

You have good points, but your missing the points I made, its okay though because I know your intent, you want us to stay safe as a nation. And thats a brave thing. I think its an abomination that any homosexual be executed in any country, but let me ask you this...If the United States government started executing bis/gays...etc, would anyone in the international community do a thing? (I know this would NEVER happen but, its a tricky question) If we did that and started training legions of suicide bombers, they would definitely seek to do something about it. Whether or not they would dare try anything is another issue. They would probably use diplomacy until blue in the face. If we were like Iran, it would just be game over for planet Earth.

[Man of Shred]

this whole thing seems like a nightmare that i wish i could wake up from.