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      I know what's bad about McCain, but...

      What's good about Obama?

      I'm not asking why he is better than his rival. I'm asking what's good about him. So far, I've seen plenty of CONs to McCain but with PROs as well. But would someone please tell me what is positive about Barrack?

      I sincerley want to know what people like about him so... I am not trying to make a debate thread, either. though I may point out why I believe a positive someone brings up is actually a negative, I'm not just going to try and argue with everyone.

      So...
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      Since when was there a GOOD choice in the presidential election?

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      I know that Obama's not a good choice, but so far I've yet to find one good thing about him...
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      Jeff is going to shit nonsense all over this thread in 3, 2, 1...

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      Lowering Taxes for 95% of Americans iirc, a Vice President that has a clue, and the Congress is (at the moment) mostly Democratic, so more laws would get passed.

      Seis is going to contribute nothing of value in -1, -2, -3...

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      How does raising corporate taxes by 50% help the middle class who is employed by those corporations help them, now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by arby View Post
      Since when was there a GOOD choice in the presidential election?
      There are good choices, but they are marginalized, and swept aside for the two-party dictatorship.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Doesn't Britian have something like a dozen majopr parties? Even though I'm a republican, I actually don't like the idea of a republican in every other time. Or even if one was in office EVERY time that would suck... Everyone give a woot woot for further encroaching government power! Yay for Big Brother!
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      McCain, Obama either way we are screwed. Vote independant

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigy View Post
      McCain, Obama either way we are screwed. Vote independant
      That's what I've been saying.

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      Quote Originally Posted by spockman View Post
      Doesn't Britain have something like a dozen major parties?
      hahahahahahahah!!! haha!! Whew..ok, no we have the exact same situation is you really, it's Labour Party or Conservative party, Liberals get a slice of vote but they were last in power..oh I dunno.. like 100 years ago! Since they fused with another small party and began Liberal Democrats in 1987 they haven't won. usually they come third behind the two major ones, I think they may have done worse before though.

      We have loads of smaller parties but realistically they don';t have a chance. The one gaining most support in recent years, i think mainly off the terrorist scares is unfortunately the British National Party, my uncle is a member, basically a bunch of racists, some pretty damn extreme ones are members too, they say things as:

      When asked in 1993 if the BNP was racist, its deputy leader Richard Edmonds said, "We are 100 per cent racist, yes"
      Founder John Tyndall proclaimed that "Mein Kampf is my bible"

      Now their trying to sound softer to get more votes from the very people they hate, atm their trying to work with extremist Sikh groups to attack Islam, which they hate the most, but their anti-homosexual to not just religion ans race. A phrase sometimes associated with them sometimes is: " There ain't no black on the Union Jack", not sure when it was said exactly but i assume by a high up member.

      The Labour party has been in power for 11 years and although things look bad for Gordon Brown because of the world economy problems(current Prime Minister) I think they will still win the next election, which I don't think is till 2010 anyway unless it's forced to be earlier.

      ...well there's your lesson in how it works across the pond,lol.
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      Quote Originally Posted by spockman View Post
      What's good about Obama?

      I'm not asking why he is better than his rival. I'm asking what's good about him. So far, I've seen plenty of CONs to McCain but with PROs as well. But would someone please tell me what is positive about Barrack?

      I sincerley want to know what people like about him so... I am not trying to make a debate thread, either. though I may point out why I believe a positive someone brings up is actually a negative, I'm not just going to try and argue with everyone.

      So...
      I don't think anyone responded to your thread in the manner that you'd of liked so I'll list some things I know and try to keep my personal views on Obama out of them.

      1. Obama's tax cut plan gives 3 times as much tax relief for middle class Americans than McCain's does. Obama's tax cut plan will give Americans who earn less than $250,000.00 a year tax cuts on their income tax as well as other taxes.

      2. He has a plan to cover all Americans under an affordable healthcare policy since 1/3 American's don't have any healthcare plan at all. People under the age of 25 will be allowed to be covered under their parents healthcare plan.

      3. He wants to educate little kids on what "inappropriate touches" are so that if it happens, they'll know to report it to a trustworthy adult.

      4. He wants to withdraw us from the Iraq war which has been hemmorhaging American tax payers dollars for years. He agrees that we have to be as careful getting out as we hastily got in...but he has a plan to get out.

      5. He was the first black president of his harvard law review

      6. He created a voter registration drive that registered over 150,000 new voters (and no, not acorn).

      7. He spent 12 years as a constitutional law professor

      8. He spent 8 yars as a state senator representing a district with over 750,000 people

      9. He became chairman of the state senate's health and human services committee

      10. He spent 4 years in the US Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran Affairs committees.

      Most of this is general stuff...if you wanted to know "good" things about what he plans to do for YOU and ME then you should have been more specific. I listed a few though.
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      He's a globalsit, thats good, right? And I'm sure he knows just what to do about global warming and health care[/sarcasm]

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      We must destroy the monetary system, or the federal reserve and urge our allies to destroy the european central bank and any other bank such as the IMF and world bank.

      As long as central banks exist we will be slaves to the ever increasing inflation built into the system of a fractional reserve.

      We will continue to work more jobs longer hours and less pay and less time off and for more years, for inflation built in, by these criminal institutions...Economic failure was designed into the system also...so when it all comes to a crash, they grab power in the form of world government, their dream of a cashless society where they control every dollar digitally.

      Thomas Jefferson was right, bankers are more dangerous then standing armies.
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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      We must destroy the monetary system, or the federal reserve and urge our allies to destroy the european central bank and any other bank such as the IMF and world bank.

      As long as central banks exist we will be slaves to the ever increasing inflation built into the system of a fractional reserve.

      We will continue to work more jobs longer hours and less pay and less time off and for more years, for inflation built in, by these criminal institutions...Economic failure was designed into the system also...so when it all comes to a crash, they grab power in the form of world government, their dream of a cashless society where they control every dollar digitally.

      Thomas Jefferson was right, bankers are more dangerous then standing armies.
      I don't know about you but I like money, I love money actually. And anyone who thinks it needs to be destroyed and/or who hates money can just send all of theirs to my paypal account.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      I don't know about you but I like money, I love money actually. And anyone who thinks it needs to be destroyed and/or who hates money can just send all of theirs to my paypal account.
      ha ha...well I need it to live, doesn't mean im stupid enough to send it out.

      I still hate it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      We must destroy the monetary system, or the federal reserve and urge our allies to destroy the european central bank and any other bank such as the IMF and world bank.

      As long as central banks exist we will be slaves to the ever increasing inflation built into the system of a fractional reserve.

      We will continue to work more jobs longer hours and less pay and less time off and for more years, for inflation built in, by these criminal institutions...Economic failure was designed into the system also...so when it all comes to a crash, they grab power in the form of world government, their dream of a cashless society where they control every dollar digitally.

      Thomas Jefferson was right, bankers are more dangerous then standing armies.
      The federal reserve bank was the worst thing ever established for this country. Most people in this country dont realize that they are privately owned and operated bank started by international banks. They arent regulated by the US government at all. They print every dollar for the US economy and loan it to us at interest. How can you pay off the interest if the money your paying it off with comes from those you owe the interest to in the first place? You have to keep borrowing money in order to pay off the interest on money already borrowed. Money = Debt , and Debt = Slavery. Sooner or later they are gonna wanna collect the money owed. When that happens the economy will collapse, panic will ensue and martial law will come into place. This will not just happen in the USA it will happen globally and it will lead to one world government and a paperless money society. RFID will be the future and everything will be controlled by the government.

      Yay to the end of Freedom

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      Then Alien Jesus will come down and start killing everyone. How do I know this you ask? Because, U.S.A leaked out documents over it on the internet, check it out yourself. It's a conspiracy!

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