Some Things A Guy Should Always Do For a Girl, Period (from facebook)

[Mes Tarrant]

OK I want your opinions on this list. I think the intention is good but.. damn.. I suddenly feel like I've been transported back to the 50s. I was going to point out the handful of ones that I didn't like, but every time I look through the list that number gets bigger and bigger. Is there just something wrong with me? I dunno. 1. Open doors when possible - whether it be to a building or the passenger car door. the classic example that's stood the test of time. 2. When in a place of worship (or other places that have aisles and pews), if a man is at the end of the pew, when exiting he should stand in the aisle and let all the females go before him. (This seems odd to some people, yet normal for others. If you don't get it, don't worry about it, okay?) 3. A man should tolerate the occasional chick flick, musical, opera, or ballet - whatever her preference is - *without* complaining about it! (Because the guy may just like it.) 4. Play one of the songs that would make any woman weep like the little girl she once was (but in a good way). A brief list includes, but certainly isn't limited, to: "You & Me" by Lifehouse Anything by Frank Sinatra Any rendition of "Everything I Do, I Do it for You" "Collide" by Howie Day "Out Of My League" by Steven Speaks And MOST IMPORTANTLY "Question" by the Old 97's (if you propose to a girl with this song, she is putty in your hands). ("Putty in your hands" is not meant to promote "using women" in any way. This group does not encourage guys to be polite in order to get her into bed.) 5. Talk! The strong & silent bit goes from intriguing to boring quite fast. 6. Find out what her favorite flower is and buy them for her randomly (regardless of the situation you might be in). A simple yet profound truth: a single rose says more than dozens of anything else. (I encourage the women to not allow a guy to "prove himself worthy" through gifts and flowers and such. Trust is a precious thing and it should take a good chunk of time before he gains it back in your heart.) 7. If you miss her, or love her, TELL HER! Even your friends like to hear it every now & again. 8. Re-enact Zales commercials (the ice is nice but certainly not mandatory). 9. Remember: the best gifts you can give are usually free of cost. 10. Leave a note (or send a message) just to say "hi". 11. Ask her questions about herself. 12. Dress nice every once & a while. Any girl likes to see her brother/friend/boyfriend/etc. in a well-ironed button-up with some nice slacks. 13. PRIDE & PREJUDICE ...that's all I have to say about that (I mean, that should speak for itself). (It's even more impressive if he has read the book.) 14. Tolerate small children as best you can. Meaning, put up with the things that can get annoying. They're children, after all. Show them love and care, teach them how to become a better man than you. (You were once extremely irritating. Get over the obnoxious kids and enjoy getting down to their level - not "for her", but for the good of yourself and others.) 15. Learn to dance! There is nothing sexier than a man who can dance really well. If God did not bless you with the grace of Fred Astaire, at least put forth the effort, it will be greatly appreciated. Always slow dance (even if it's just like you danced in middle school). Also, men, sing to a lady. Even if you're terrible, suck it up! They love to listen to it and will not care what you sound like. It's the thought that counts on this one. Unless you're just downright terrible, nothing sexy about that. Haha, thanks, Jade! 16. Kiss her on the forehead. 17. When she's sick, stay up with her. If you can cook (which is *always* a plus), make her some soup. If you can't cook, there's Campbell's soup at hand for you. 18. Pretend to throw her in the pool (or fountain/pond). If you really do throw her in, you'd better jump in yourself. **NOTE** There are some women who just hate this apparently, so you had better do two things: 1) Never allow your buddies be a part of it if you're unsure of how she feels about getting thrown in and 2) You had better know how she feels about it! 19. Hold her hand while you talk, drive, or just for the heck of it (it's the small things that win you big points). 20. LOOK IN HER EYES, NOT AT HER CHEST!!!!! 21. Stupid jokes = awkwardly adorable moments. 22. Tickle her, tease her, let her tease you back without getting all bent out of shape about it. 23. Don't call her hot, or pretty, or cute; call her beautiful, because that's what she is. (I don't think cute is that bad, but definitely stay away from "hot" [it's so overused and superficial] and step "pretty" up to beautiful or gorgeous or stunning or captivating or...) 24. Offer her your jacket/sweatshirt. (Note: you may not see that particular item of clothing for a while, if ever again). 25. Don't be too proud to apologize. 26. It's not stalking to watch her sleep if you fall asleep watching a movie. It is stalking to watch her sleep if you're standing outside her window with night vision goggles. 27. When she feels at her worst, tell her she looks her best. 28. If you're trying to get more than friendship out of the relationship, take it slow and never rush her. 29. Just because you're a guy doesn't mean you are completely incapable of calling when you say you will, it just means you are highly incapable of it. There are few acceptable answers to, "Why didn't you call?", & being male is not one of them. 30. Don't check out other girls in front of your female friends/sisters/mother, unless you are sincere when you later ask them if you think she could introduce the two of you for more reasons than you "want to get some". 31. Guys - always offer to pay for the date. No matter how expensive it gets, especially if YOU asked HER on the date. [if she is willing to pay now and again, don't let your "man pride" get in the way of her wanting to give back to you. she should understand money can be tight - especially when you're always buying] 32. Always do everything in your power to keep her as happy as you can. And cheer her up in any way possible. [if she isn't always happy - and i've never met a girl who is - don't be afraid of her and don't be stupid and always, unquestioningly, blame it on PMS. be there WITH her when times are tough and she wants you there.] 33. When walking on the sidewalk, always walk on the outside near traffic. (So everyone has a different opinion for how this started. For some, it's because of the human waste that was getting thrown out the windows when this was happening a century ago. The woman walked under the overhangings extending from the buildings with the guy in the open to take the mess if need be. Others say it's from the guy's scabbard/sword being on his left with the woman walking on the right. As for today, it's the traffic and puddles and what-not. Whatever it is. It's just a courtesy thing, if it seems necessary.) 34. At least do everything in your power to keep cursing to a minimum while around her. If you can, cut it out period while around her, or cut it out of your vocabulary. Women don't want to hear it, guys don't care about it, adults don't want to hear it, it doesn't impress employers, and you sure won't want your children or someone else's to hear it! 35. Sometimes you have to take the initiative. Don't always wait for her to come to you, because if that's how it always is, you're going to lose her. 36. If any lady is walking alone to her car in a dark parking lot/garage, or is carrying a heavy load, always offer to help walk her to her destination and carry things, if not the entire load. **This may work a lot better and come off non-stalkerish if you at least know the girl you're trying to help. Haha thanks to a LOT of people on this revision.** 37. If a woman says no, let that be her final answer with maybe one question of confirmation after her first answer. Do not pressure or force her in any way after that. Don't make her give in to something she doesn't want to do. 38. Always be honest with her. No woman wants or likes a dishonest man. If you can't be honest with her, she can't trust you, and shows you don't trust her enough to be honest. Trust, honesty and integrity are just as an integral part of a relationship and just as important as love. 39. A man should always genuinely listen to women; no matter how bored or busy the man is. Actively listening to the woman will keep him from pain (and bring the man and woman closer together). This works best, of course, when both the man and the woman actively and equally engage in conversation (this includes listening). For the ladies reading this, please talk - always talk - especially if you are having problems with the relationship and to also avoid making bigger problems.

[Carôusoul]

y yu du dis ;_;

[Mes Tarrant]

Carou what the hell is wrong with your posts lately. They're all exactly the same suddenly. /lashing out

[Marvo]

I thought men and women were supposed to be equal these days.

[Mes Tarrant]

I mean I don't want to sound like I have something stuck up my ass, but... I highly disagree with the first two items. I prefer to open my own doors, and I see no reason for me to walk down a church isle first. I mean wtf.

[Xaqaria]

and I see no reason for me to walk down a church isle first. I mean wtf. Thats just because you're a heathen atheist. ...soo anyway... The girls that post this shit on facebook, myspace, etc. are the girls that are sitting at home alone wishing they had the perfect man but without any male interest in them whatsoever. Anyone who compiles a list of qualities for their desired mate is bound to come up wanting each and every time. p.s. anything by Jane Austen is before-t.v.-soap-opera trash.

[Carôusoul]

Carou what the hell is wrong with your posts lately. They're all exactly the same suddenly. /lashing out Its a virus. Hackers have taken over. I love you.

[Rozzy]

i think the one thing that guys should do is be consciously aware of his woman's needs. that's it. forget about the old school chivalry. believe me, it's like out the window. yeah it's nice to have a door opened for you once in a while, but hey i open doors all the time and i love it... lol unless a woman actually wants that.. then i guess all the above things that were mentioned.

[Goldney]

I love you. Rule 7 in action... That list sickens me. It's so clichéd.

[Amethyst Star]

Most of those I like and wouldn't mind some guys doing, but they're not any sort of relational prerequisite. I enjoy having the door opened from time to time, but will gladly return the favor if it's a double-door. That "Tolerate small children" and "Learn to dance" are a little *ehh* I have no interest in having kids at this point in time, so as long as he's not rude to kids (or anyone else for that matter), that's fine. I don't dance (except for DDR), so unless he wants to take a salsa class together or something, I'm fine with not dancing. And I'm not sure how I'd feel if I was feeling miserably sick and someone told me I was beautiful. "Um, I don't think so." What it boils down to for me is this: respect women and occasionally do things that are neither expected nor anticipated. Why? It's nice. I like 20, 25, 30, 34, 35, and 38.

[Siиdяed]

37. If a woman says no, let that be her final answer with maybe one question of confirmation after her first answer. Do not pressure or force her in any way after that. Don't make her give in to something she doesn't want to do. This list means nothing to me.

[Merlock]

Any man that needs any of these points explained to him is mentally deficient. 25. Don't be too proud to apologize. And that there is the reason for why modern relationships fail. "Relationships", a disgusting word in itself. People do not fall in love to the point of caring about someone else more than their own lives, willing to take a mortal wound without a single second thought for their loved one. No, too much pride and too much self-centred focus. Too much light-hearted "relationship" and not enough zealous devotion. 31. Guys - always offer to pay for the date. No matter how expensive it gets, especially if YOU asked HER on the date. [if she is willing to pay now and again, don't let your "man pride" get in the way of her wanting to give back to you. she should understand money can be tight - especially when you're always buying] And that...how can a man even face his loved one or target of adoration if he doesn't have a mountain of money to pay for her every desire? What kind of weakling would allow himself to fall in love without the ability to cater to her every need and always be there for her? And if he does, he must go out of his way at all times, committing crimes if need be and doing absolutely anything it takes to attain the power and wealth to literally shower her in gifts and make sure she always has everything she needs and at least most of what she wants. But hrm, I could probably rant on nearly every point in such a list, so I'll stop there.

[Oneironaut Zero]

Now, I'd like to see a list of "Some Things A Girl Should Always Do For A Guy." And for extra points, I want to see it written by a girl. Aaaaaand GO!

[paragon]

This is how men and women should act: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swNVzH_2IRQ In fact it is how they did act in 1947. The inconsistency is that many feminists want to have it all their own way. They expect us to act like Cary Grant, ever the perfect gentlemen, when most of them act like Britney Spears. Take some tips from Loretta Young in that clip and they might stand a chance of actually being treated like a real woman, if they act like one. I do agree with much of what was written other than the sensitive new-age metrosexual crap like reading Jane Austen and going to chick flicks. I’ll do that the day she reads my war books and comes to the drag racing with me. I do open doors for real women – they love it. Makes them feel like a woman and makes me feel like a man – great! But I only do it for women who have some self-respect, who actually act like women and who treat me with equal respect rather than holding the adversarial “you hopeless men should all treat me like a queen just because I’m a woman” attitude of a spoilt brat feminist. And this sort of stuff is completely inaccurate: Dress nice every once & a while. Any girl likes to see her brother/friend/boyfriend/etc. in a well-ironed button-up with some nice slacks. Not in my experience! Feminists seem to find apathetic slobs irresistible because it’s apparently a sign of manliness in our disordered society. I guess also because women have become more masculine, if they’re going to be attracted to something more masculine than themselves, they will have a hard time stopping short of the Neanderthal. Dress nicely and they just think you’re a nancy. [/rant]

[Techno]

Feminists are women who never had a man tell them 'no' until they turned ugly. It's a vicious double-standard that can't be beaten with words.

[Oneironaut Zero]

I do open doors for real women – they love it. Makes them feel like a woman and makes me feel like a man – great! But I only do it for women who have some self-respect, who actually act like women and who treat me with equal respect rather than holding the adversarial “you hopeless men should all treat me like a queen just because I’m a woman” attitude of a spoilt brat feminist. I agree. Chivalry is not dead. It's simply evolved. It's gone from guys doing things like this because it's expected of us, to some guys continuing to do it because certain women carry themselves in a way that deserves "the little things" that some still appreciate. But when it comes to the type of women that just expect guys to do it for them, and cry out when they don't, so many of them have yet to look inside and realize that there may be a reason why guys aren't capitalizing on opportunities to make them feel special.

[Amethyst Star]

Feminists seem to find apathetic slobs irresistible because it’s apparently a sign of manliness in our disordered society. I guess also because women have become more masculine, if they’re going to be attracted to something more masculine than themselves, they will have a hard time stopping short of the Neanderthal. Dress nicely and they just think you’re a nancy. I prefer someone who looks sharp. They don't necessarily have to be "fashionable" but I'd much rather see a man in a suit than a guy who doesn't know a belt loop from a lug nut. I'd like to have a roll of duct tape the next time I see some show-off with his pants hanging around his knees.

[paragon]

Well then I wish there were more women like you around here, Amethyst. Here anyone who knows one end of a cufflink from the other has their sexuality questioned.

[Goldney]

but I'd much rather see a man in a suit than a guy who doesn't know a belt loop from a lug nut. A what-what from a hoozit!?

[capoopy]

Pretend to throw her in the pool? lololololololol

[Ynot]

16. Kiss her on the forehead. Ha I know that joke

[ninja9578]

4. Play one of the songs that would make any woman weep like the little girl she once was (but in a good way). A brief list includes, but certainly isn't limited, to: "You & Me" by Lifehouse I don't know who Lifehouse is, but "You and Me" is by Alice Cooper 10. Leave a note (or send a message) just to say "hi". 11. Ask her questions about herself. Mes know's why I find that funny 13. PRIDE & PREJUDICE ...that's all I have to say about that (I mean, that should speak for itself). (It's even more impressive if he has read the book.) I think that's a great book, and a must read for any guy. 15. Learn to dance! There is nothing sexier than a man who can dance really well. If God did not bless you with the grace of Fred Astaire, at least put forth the effort, it will be greatly appreciated. Always slow dance (even if it's just like you danced in middle school). Also, men, sing to a lady. Even if you're terrible, suck it up! They love to listen to it and will not care what you sound like. It's the thought that counts on this one. Unless you're just downright terrible, nothing sexy about that. Haha, thanks, Jade! Where's the video of O dancing? 23. Don't call her hot, or pretty, or cute; call her beautiful, because that's what she is. (I don't think cute is that bad, but definitely stay away from "hot" [it's so overused and superficial] and step "pretty" up to beautiful or gorgeous or stunning or captivating or...) I call girls all three of those things 26. It's not stalking to watch her sleep if you fall asleep watching a movie. It is stalking to watch her sleep if you're standing outside her window with night vision goggles. Mes is onto me

[Mes Tarrant]

ROFL!! Yes I thought of you when I saw number 26...

[Oneironaut Zero]

Where's the video of O dancing? I know nothing of this "video," of which you speak. ...

[Black_Eagle]

I'm getting the feeling I should not tell girls I own Night Vision Goggles...