Some Things A Guy Should Always Do For a Girl, Period (from facebook)

**paragon** · 02-13-2009 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

I just don't get it.

I suppose I could say that I open doors for real men, real friends, real loved ones, etc...

Then, that's okay.

Men have always been the dominant sex because we are stronger emotionally and physically. This can be either a virtue when it is used wisely, or a vice when it is abused. In an ordered society, men will use their dominant position to protect women. It is the responsibility that comes along with being put in the dominant position. It is the same as in the army - the officer has been put in a position of power over his soldiers. As a result, his responsibility is to ensure the safety of his soldiers, and put their welfare above his own at all times. Likewise, when a man opens a door for a woman, he is saying "I am stronger than you, but I will use my power to serve you." That is the historical/traditional basis for why men open doors for women, and why women don't open doors for men. It is the same reason why women and children were traditionally evacuated from a sinking vessel first - the strong protect the vulnerable.

I acknowledge of course that feminism refuses to admit the reality that men are stronger than women, and that's the self-defeating aspect of it. If men offer to put women first, feminism discourages women from accepting the offer, calling it patronising. So men have become less inclined to put women first, yet (try as feminists might to change the natural order) men remain in the stronger position. And then feminists wonder why so many men end up becoming abusive bastards.

**Mes Tarrant** · 02-13-2009 02:26 AM

FIRST of all, where is your proof that men are stronger emotionally? I never thought I'd hear something like that in this day and age.

Second, show me a feminist who doesn't acknowledge that men, on average, are physically stronger. Because I definitely haven't met one.

And finally, one crucial point is that physical strength does not matter in our current society (unless maybe you are living in a third world country, in which case it's understandable). How many times in your life will you need to rescue a damsel in distress using your bulging arm muscles?

**Oneironaut Zero** · 02-13-2009 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Mitzie

I have never EVER been with a guy who did that. Ever ever ever ever ever.

Really??

The girls I've been with have all been just about as tall as my chin, so it just kinda comes naturally. I've never been told that it's actually something they liked, though, so I'm just going to use your adoration of it as affirmation. LOL.

**paragon** · 02-13-2009 02:49 AM

Ok, Mes Terrant, we'll leave you behind in the sinking ship with the men then.

**Mes Tarrant** · 02-13-2009 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by paragon

Ok, Mes Terrant, we'll leave you behind in the sinking ship with the men then.

I'll take that to mean you realize you have no argument.

**16Candles** · 02-13-2009 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

FIRST of all, where is your proof that men are stronger emotionally? I never thought I'd hear something like that in this day and age.

actually mes, i have a lot of guy friends who are very in touch with their emotions. they'll even cry at movies and won't try to hide it. and they're straight as a board! times are changing. it's not so bad that some guys have stronger emotions than us. it just means that there are more sensitive guys in the world than there were years ago. and i for one welcome that!

**Mes Tarrant** · 02-13-2009 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by 16Candles

actually mes, i have a lot of guy friends who are very in touch with their emotions. they'll even cry at movies and won't try to hide it. and they're straight as a board! times are changing. it's not so bad that some guys have stronger emotions than us. it just means that there are more sensitive guys in the world than there were years ago. and i for one welcome that!

I took "stronger emotionally" to mean the opposite, that they don't get upset/happy/sad/angry easily...

**16Candles** · 02-13-2009 03:08 AM

oh. i thought that was emotionally weak, actually. kind of like emotionally dead. but i sort of see how how you would have translated that. i see strong emotions and emotion control as two different things.

**ninja9578** · 02-13-2009 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

4. Play one of the songs that would make any woman weep like the little girl she once was (but in a good way). A brief list includes, but certainly isn't limited, to:
"You & Me" by Lifehouse

I don't know who Lifehouse is, but "You and Me" is by Alice Cooper

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

10. Leave a note (or send a message) just to say "hi".

11. Ask her questions about herself.

Mes know's why I find that funny

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

13. PRIDE & PREJUDICE ...that's all I have to say about that (I mean, that should speak for itself). (It's even more impressive if he has read the book.)

I think that's a great book, and a must read for any guy.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

15. Learn to dance! There is nothing sexier than a man who can dance really well. If God did not bless you with the grace of Fred Astaire, at least put forth the effort, it will be greatly appreciated. Always slow dance (even if it's just like you danced in middle school). Also, men, sing to a lady. Even if you're terrible, suck it up! They love to listen to it and will not care what you sound like. It's the thought that counts on this one. Unless you're just downright terrible, nothing sexy about that. Haha, thanks, Jade!

Where's the video of O dancing?

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

23. Don't call her hot, or pretty, or cute; call her beautiful, because that's what she is. (I don't think cute is that bad, but definitely stay away from "hot" [it's so overused and superficial] and step "pretty" up to beautiful or gorgeous or stunning or captivating or...)

I call girls all three of those things

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

26. It's not stalking to watch her sleep if you fall asleep watching a movie. It is stalking to watch her sleep if you're standing outside her window with night vision goggles.

Mes is onto me

**Mes Tarrant** · 02-13-2009 03:13 AM

ROFL!!

Yes I thought of you when I saw number 26...

**Oneironaut Zero** · 02-13-2009 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Where's the video of O dancing?

I know nothing of this "video," of which you speak.

...

**Black_Eagle** · 02-13-2009 04:56 AM

I'm getting the feeling I should not tell girls I own Night Vision Goggles...

**Xaqaria** · 02-13-2009 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

and I see no reason for me to walk down a church isle first. I mean wtf.

Thats just because you're a heathen atheist.

...soo anyway... The girls that post this shit on facebook, myspace, etc. are the girls that are sitting at home alone wishing they had the perfect man but without any male interest in them whatsoever. Anyone who compiles a list of qualities for their desired mate is bound to come up wanting each and every time.

p.s. anything by Jane Austen is before-t.v.-soap-opera trash.

**Mitzie** · 02-13-2009 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Thats just because you're a heathen atheist.

...soo anyway... The girls that post this shit on facebook, myspace, etc. are the girls that are sitting at home alone wishing they had the perfect man but without any male interest in them whatsoever. Anyone who compiles a list of qualities for their desired mate is bound to come up wanting each and every time.

p.s. anything by Jane Austen is before-t.v.-soap-opera trash.

Seriously dood.

For you!

**Super Duck** · 02-13-2009 10:54 PM

Good God that looks nice...

**Robot_Butler** · 02-13-2009 11:04 PM

I'll only open a door for girl if I'm standing on the hinge side. Otherwise its awkward.

**Super Duck** · 02-14-2009 02:22 PM

I opened a door for a girl I like yesterday. It amazed me how satisfying it felt when she thanked me even though opening a door is such an everyday thing.

**ClouD** · 02-14-2009 02:38 PM

I pulled a chair out for a girl once. She wasn't too happy when she fell on her ass.

Also, neat random fact - I still have a visible piece of clicky pencil stuff in my arm from when a girl snap-stabbed me there 6-7 years ago.

**Super Duck** · 02-14-2009 02:39 PM

Ahaha. Smooth move...

**Kushna Mufeed** · 02-14-2009 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by ClouD

I pulled a chair out for a girl once. She wasn't too happy when she fell on her ass.

Also, neat random fact - I still have a visible piece of clicky pencil stuff in my arm from when a girl snap-stabbed me there 6-7 years ago.

You're gonna get lead- I mean, graphite carbon poisoning!

**Rozzy** · 02-17-2009 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by paragon

This is how men and women should act:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swNVzH_2IRQ I do open doors for real women – they love it. Makes them feel like a woman and makes me feel like a man – great! But I only do it for women who have some self-respect, who actually act like women and who treat me with equal respect rather than holding the adversarial “you hopeless men should all treat me like a queen just because I’m a woman” attitude of a spoilt brat feminist.
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completely agreed, but at the same time, i kinda feel like embarrassed, and ackward when my guy opens doors for me.
i am weird i guess, but i don't like it when guys pay and open doors and pull out chairs... i just feel like hey we are in a different like world. yeah it's nice to have someone open the door and pay for lunch and dinner, but girls should participate in those areas as well.
anyways....

Originally Posted by Mitzie

K, I thought about for a while, and I first I didn't wanna respond at the risk of sounding like a sap, but yeah, this one is my favourite. I have never EVER been with a guy who did that. Ever ever ever ever ever.

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wow, i can't believe you haven't!!! it is amazing. you like kiss them on the forehead and then the nose, eyebrow, etc...
not only is it cute, it's bonding...
you need to find a guy like that....

**Mes Tarrant** · 02-17-2009 07:11 PM

Wait let me clarify... That list was posted by a man who thinks he knows something about women, and it's supported by more men on facebook who agree with him.

**Robot_Butler** · 02-17-2009 07:31 PM

There seem to be a few critical items missing from this list. I guess I won't mention them since this is a wholesome, family site.

**Techno** · 02-17-2009 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

There seem to be a few critical items missing from this list. I guess I won't mention them since this is a wholesome, family site.

Are you saying you need to know how to please a woman sexually to have a fruitful relationship?!

BLASPHEMY! *takes out his crossbow*

Psst, use spoiler tags.

**Robot_Butler** · 02-17-2009 07:50 PM

I'm just suggesting that if you rely on that list to satisfy the woman in your life, she won't be in your life for long. I mean, come on, this is the '90s.

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